[NickyC]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

I like that it's reliable. Is that V10 hard to service?

I don't believe so. I'm on my second Z4M right now, and about the only car I'd even consider replacing it with is a 'vert Viper from 08 on. I'd done a lot of reading on it and lurked around the Viper forums, and I'll I've read from anyone is positive stuff.

The good thing about the Viper too is that you can find tons of low mileage examples because they are toys for most people. It's easy to find 08 Vipers for around $50k which have less than 15k miles on them.

A buddy of mine owned a previous gen Viper GTS, and put close to 100k miles on it in about 6 six years of daily driver ownership. He loved it so much he bought a new model a few years back and it's been a tank for him too. He literally pounded the hell out of his first Viper too , road racing, 1/4, etc.

[ben14142001]

Not used, but the GT350/GT350R is supposed to be pretty amazing.

[See5]

You might be able to swing an '09 ZR1 for that money. And trust me, you aren't going to find too many cars out of the box that will be quicker. The power delivery is explosive. 130+mph traps bone stock.

Then once you get used to it, do a pulley/tune/intake/heat exchanger.

The LS9 and the trans/diff/clutch combo is damn near indestructible.

EDIT: There's a 2010 ZR1 with 54K on eBay going for 53K.

[RABAUKE]

So maybe this doesn't quite meet your criteria, but I had a Factory Five Cobra a while back. It cost me about $30K, had a 302 roller motor for about 400HP in a 2200 lbs. car. It was fast, hot and noisy. ( I like my women like that by the way)

The thing was fast, really fast and handled but you needed to pay attention all the time because it would bite you.....

oh, and it was one of the horniest things to look at, it got more attention then anything I've ever owned.

[Mywifes335]

Was thinking of the GT350R new so tge new Camaro SS is instantly an alternative. Your thoughts?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by RABAUKE

So maybe this doesn't quite meet your criteria, but I had a Factory Five Cobra a while back. It cost me about $30K, had a 302 roller motor for about 400HP in a 2200 lbs. car. It was fast, hot and noisy. ( I like my women like that by the way)

The thing was fast, really fast and handled but you needed to pay attention all the time because it would bite you.....

oh, and it was one of the horniest things to look at, it got more attention then anything I've ever owned.

Buddy of mine has one...with an LS1. It's ridiculous. But he's a lot handier than I am.

How was serviceability?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by See5

You might be able to swing an '09 ZR1 for that money. And trust me, you aren't going to find too many cars out of the box that will be quicker. The power delivery is explosive. 130+mph traps bone stock.

Then once you get used to it, do a pulley/tune/intake/heat exchanger.

The LS9 and the trans/diff/clutch combo is damn near indestructible.

EDIT: There's a 2010 ZR1 with 54K on eBay going for 53K.

Quite a few votes for the C6 Z06/ZR1...good stuff. I just wish it looks as good as the C7.

So what about the C7?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by RABAUKE

So maybe this doesn't quite meet your criteria, but I had a Factory Five Cobra a while back. It cost me about $30K, had a 302 roller motor for about 400HP in a 2200 lbs. car. It was fast, hot and noisy. ( I like my women like that by the way)

The thing was fast, really fast and handled but you needed to pay attention all the time because it would bite you.....

oh, and it was one of the horniest things to look at, it got more attention then anything I've ever owned.

Very sweet ride BTW

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Quite a few votes for the C6 Z06/ZR1...good stuff. I just wish it looks as good as the C7.

So what about the C7?

The c7 is the real entry level sports car. Sits low to the ground, has two seats, big powerful engine can get a manual etc...You get real sports car feel. The corvette is the best looking, and most fun new car under 100k period. Z06 specially. Most people on here won't own a corvette because they need seats for kids or because it's American made. Other wise it's a fast, fun, sexy car. I love mine.

[tcpsoft]

Some good choices here, but no mention of a 2015 Camaro Z/28 yet. I see quite a few low mileage Z/28s for sale for a little over $50K.

We all have our own idea of what of "best" is, but its certainly in the running for fastest.

[eluded]

Go fast crack pipe, never enuf!!!

1. 997 Porsche 911 Turbo-- awesome car, responds nice to mods

2. Nissan GTR -- ok if u keep stock. Will become slow in a month or two

3. F10 BMW M5 (although afraid of depreciation and reliability) -- fast, responds to mods, fast, fast, my pick

4. C7 Corvette Stingray Z51- Will become slow in a month or two, no mods outside of blower or nos

5. Audi S6 (current gen, biturbo V8) -- completely unreliable

[Vigilante375]

Z/28 is made for the road course, not the straight line, and the LS7s really aren't that great with forced induction. You'd have to do some extra work to make sure the engine doesn't fail and holds the extra power properly. They already have some issues with the LS7 valve train that followed from the C6 Z06. You'd have to do your research to find the right C6 Z06 as compared to drawing straws on the new Z/28 engine issues.

If anything, I'd go with a ZL1. It has the same LSA (though a little more power) as the 2nd gen CTS-V and its good to go with making more power on the stock block.

Same can be said for the GT350/GT350R. Its a road course designed car. When I think fastest, I think straight line. Its easier to find a car thats made for boost than making one ready for it. Especially when you want to, as they say, "boost it to the moon". But there are some cars they will do fine with slapping a turbo or supercharger on them. Like a 2011+ 5.0 Mustang or a G8 GXP or Camaro SS.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by eluded

Go fast crack pipe, never enuf!!!

1. 997 Porsche 911 Turbo-- awesome car, responds nice to mods

2. Nissan GTR -- ok if u keep stock. Will become slow in a month or two

3. F10 BMW M5 (although afraid of depreciation and reliability) -- fast, responds to mods, fast, fast, my pick

4. C7 Corvette Stingray Z51- Will become slow in a month or two, no mods outside of blower or nos

5. Audi S6 (current gen, biturbo V8) -- completely unreliable

Great synopsis. The never enough thing is why I always end up modding. It gets crazy sometimes, have even dug into internals a couple times. That's why I'm trying to get the "end all" car to stem the modding.

Interesting observation on the S6, is it really that unreliable?

So with the M5...my biggest fear is do I own it forEVER or take the big depreciation hit down the road? What do you guys think?

For example, the CPO E60 M5 I had in 2008 was worth $72k...two years later its market value was $45k. Now you can get one for $25k. Scary what happens to the big Bimmers.

And when I say I want to keep it stock...I mean nothing more than maybe a catback or piggyback tune. The most. I promise. Then I'll goto my AA meeting.

Come on guys...if you're on this forum you gotta have the same bug! Crack is whack!

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Ezio

The c7 is the real entry level sports car. Sits low to the ground, has two seats, big powerful engine can get a manual etc...You get real sports car feel. The corvette is the best looking, and most fun new car under 100k period. Z06 specially. Most people on here won't own a corvette because they need seats for kids or because it's American made. Other wise it's a fast, fun, sexy car. I love mine.

Agree, agree. C7 looks like a REAL sports car. Shit, my son has 3 Power Wheels. One of them is a C7!

The dilemma I have is...I really like the C7. But...will the Z51 be "enough" or will owners pine for the balls out Z06?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Z/28 is made for the road course, not the straight line, and the LS7s really aren't that great with forced induction. You'd have to do some extra work to make sure the engine doesn't fail and holds the extra power properly. They already have some issues with the LS7 valve train that followed from the C6 Z06. You'd have to do your research to find the right C6 Z06 as compared to drawing straws on the new Z/28 engine issues.

If anything, I'd go with a ZL1. It has the same LSA (though a little more power) as the 2nd gen CTS-V and its good to go with making more power on the stock block.

Same can be said for the GT350/GT350R. Its a road course designed car. When I think fastest, I think straight line. Its easier to find a car thats made for boost than making one ready for it. Especially when you want to, as they say, "boost it to the moon". But there are some cars they will do fine with slapping a turbo or supercharger on them. Like a 2011+ 5.0 Mustang or a G8 GXP or Camaro SS.

I like straight line a lot...it's all about the push in the back rush, the torque crescendo... But, it's gotta turn. My buddy has a Renntech E63 biturbo and although it's ludicrously fast...it feels like a hippo strapped with rockets.

I agree man. I read a lot about the GT350 and am hopeful. Other track instruments just don't have the same straight line punch. That's why the Alpha 4C and Lotus Exiges never made the list.

[RM7]

GT350R, or SS with 1LE if you want to save a few more dollars.

These cars are specialized weapons, engaging, fun, capable, well designed, etc.

Corvette starts to get too far into the compromise area for me, in terms of low/cargo space, etc. I could probably think of some other cars in the price range of what you want to spend, but many of those cars will be a b*tch when you realize they are close to (or in need of) requiring all new rotors, pads, clutch, trans-service(for auto), tires, etc. This is assuming nothing else is wrong with the car, but the chances of all the consumables and regular stuff being perfect are slim, I'd say the opposite is the case. Lots of people dump their BMWs when they realize they are getting close to the end of the warranty period or when they realize the next brake pad change is the rotors too.

Of course, there's the exclusivity of something like a GTR, but I agree that you probably need to spend more to find a decent one or a good Porsche that at least be on par with some of the newest cars (like the 350R) that you can get for the same or cheaper.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by tcpsoft

Some good choices here, but no mention of a 2015 Camaro Z/28 yet. I see quite a few low mileage Z/28s for sale for a little over $50K.

We all have our own idea of what of "best" is, but its certainly in the running for fastest.

The current gen Camaro seems to trump the prior Z/28 and ZL1s due to the new weight reductions. But if it's that compelling, I'll dig into research it more for sure.

[RABAUKE]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Buddy of mine has one...with an LS1. It's ridiculous. But he's a lot handier than I am.

How was serviceability?

Service was easy, Ford 302 and T5 Trans with Ford 9" rear end. Parts were reasonable and I had a race shop near by who could do anything I couldn't. I'd have kept it except it was time to move on as it was a weekend toy and with no top, heat or radio (not that you could hear it) it was pretty limited to good weather and no traffic. You would die from the heat coming off the engine sitting in traffic. I sold it for a bit more than I paid for it and bought my Z4MC.

It's a bit different, hell it's a lot different but a hell of a lot of fun to drive, get's lots of approving looks and is more versatile.

[AIRPOWER]

To the OP, why don't you edit your thread and add an actual Poll that people can vote in......

And if your just looking for pure Power, add the 707 HP Hellcat to the choices while your editing.

Just my 2 cents

[RABAUKE]

Originally Posted by AIRPOWER

To the OP, why don't you edit your thread and and an actual Poll that people can vote in......

And if your just looking for pure Power, add the 707 HP Hellcat to the choices while your editing.

Just my 2 cents

Hellcat good one!

[RABAUKE]

I'm finding this thread to be a bit of a challenge, the under $60K (US) is confusing me, because thats a bout $8 Million Canadian.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

Aren't low optioned used f8x now in the 60$ks????

Yes. My low-option M3 was $60k brand new (after discounts).