[BimmerFix]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Non-M BMWs have a longer heritage than Ms, so the logic doesn't hold water.

Nope wrong, not anymore. And you're completely missing the point I was trying to make , move along bro. In this day and age, the BMW brand is so far diluted and watered down, that if you are truly looking for anything with real BMW d.n.a you need to look at the M line.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by BimmerFix

Nope wrong, not anymore. And you're completely missing the point I was trying to make , move along bro. In this day and age, the BMW brand is so far diluted and watered down, that if you are truly looking for anything with real BMW d.n.a you need to look at the M line.

I believe the brand has been "diluted" since 1973 when BMW open their first manufacturing facility outside of Germany in South Africa.

[WWM3]

My Mexican GTI has had no issues. Will reserve judgement.

[minn19]

This is no different then the built in South Africa vs Germany threads. Very predictable.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by TX3M

This is great news for Mexico and their workforce. Not sure what it means for future 3-series owners.

" The new location in Mexico is another building block in this growth strategy. The country is a member of the NAFTA free-trade area with Canada and the United States. It also has a large number of free-trade agreements, including with the European Union and MERCOSUR, which make it easier to export cars and import supplied parts. "


LOL at this ad copy. Where is NAFTA? the US isn't a part of NAFTA right now.

This plant opening is just in time for Tariffs.

If they stay in place. .. BMW will really be unhappy, and so will prospective BMW buyers.

Build quality won't matter when the price is unreasonable.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Kwando

I'm not so sure about that. Our Alabama-built Benz came with a door handle that didn't work from the first day I drove it home. Shortly into the ownership the window washer fluid tube and rear parking sensors were replaced as the dealer said they were not installed properly.

that's because things are only improperly installed in the U.S. , South Africa, and Mexico. An improper install is impossible in Germany... ?

your story makes as little sense as the advice you were given by the dealer.

How did the handle get installed improperly, make it past QC. Be specific, Which door handle? interior or outer?

If the part was replaced.. how was it installed so improperly that it stayed in place... didn't fall off... and didn't attract ANY attention until the day you got the item? I could believe parts being not installed correctly and needing to be RE-INSTALLED.. but if the part needed to be REPLACED.. then the part was either bad to begin with (and install had nothing to do with it) or the person installing the item somehow also BROKE it in a fashion that was not noticed by anyone until you got to the car.

[mecheng77]

Originally Posted by BMW M Power Mexico

You should be teaching economics! I feel enlightened after reading that bit of wisdom.

Originally Posted by BMW M Power Mexico

You should be teaching economics! I feel enlightened after reading that bit of wisdom.

You should do a better job hiding your bias. Hey it's a win for Mexico no denying that, great for you

[uniqueMR]

Congrats Mexico.
And in regards to Tariff mania, well Trump won't last forever. Thanks to our democracy

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

Mexico only bought 25,000 Bmw, Yet they sold 45,000 in Canada with a much smaller population. They should build them where they are sold

But the majority don’t want to pay an additional 10% ; )
BMW doesn’t want to open in a heavy union country.

[DML]

Nothing like paying Bavarian prices for Mexican made

[DML]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Congrats Mexico.
And in regards to Tariff mania, well Trump won't last forever. Thanks to our democracy

Thanks to a Democrat party turned socialist, Trump will be victorious.

[KGB_123_99]

When asking about the Mexican build G20, my dealer said the cars are mostly built by robots. He seemed to emphasize that very strongly

[BMWCompact]

Originally Posted by SteveSpy

Ha! The beginning of the end for BMW in Carolina...

You say this because ....??????????

[clutchdj]

There is a difference and it’s in the details. My f85 had a crooked windshield roadside service sticker. Annoying. Especially on a 100k truck. It only takes an extra second to make sure it’s marginally straight. Would not happen in Germany. A robot does not fuck that up. Maybe it’s the cheap liquor is SC (I kid I kid).

All of my Mexican VWs had turn signals (mirrors) that were semi faulty and loud under dash relays that liked to click like a switchboard. Lots of the plastics (rear view mirrors especially) are produced in Mexico and they felt brittle and cheap. All of his means nothing; mass produced vehicles just have more issues since they’re, well, mass produced.

Real ///M cars need to be produced in Germany. Forget that they cost 5x more it’s just the way it should be. My f80 has an odd front left clunk and f90 has a random dash gremlin but all the stickers are neat and straight!!!!

[ADRQ0811]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

" The new location in Mexico is another building block in this growth strategy. The country is a member of the NAFTA free-trade area with Canada and the United States. It also has a large number of free-trade agreements, including with the European Union and MERCOSUR, which make it easier to export cars and import supplied parts. "


LOL at this ad copy. Where is NAFTA? the US isn't a part of NAFTA right now.

This plant opening is just in time for Tariffs.

If they stay in place. .. BMW will really be unhappy, and so will prospective BMW buyers.

Build quality won't matter when the price is unreasonable.

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

" The new location in Mexico is another building block in this growth strategy. The country is a member of the NAFTA free-trade area with Canada and the United States. It also has a large number of free-trade agreements, including with the European Union and MERCOSUR, which make it easier to export cars and import supplied parts. "


LOL at this ad copy. Where is NAFTA? the US isn't a part of NAFTA right now.

This plant opening is just in time for Tariffs.

If they stay in place. .. BMW will really be unhappy, and so will prospective BMW buyers.

Build quality won't matter when the price is unreasonable.

Might want to check again NAFTA is still in affect , the new deal USMCA has not taken over yet .

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by psuibmw

Better hurry up and order my M340 now

Delivery time would be less though

[hellas203]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I've never understood the logic behind where the car is made. It's about the parts made not where it's made in my mind... the parts are all the same.

Huge issue with origin where it's made. Attention to detail to those that are not. Would you want a car built in Japan or one in China ? And the same goes for goods as well. Quality over quantity, I would never ever ever buy a car from Mexico.

[hellas203]

Originally Posted by KGB_123_99

When asking about the Mexican build G20, my dealer said the cars are mostly built by robots. He seemed to emphasize that very strongly

Ahaha keep listening to a dealership they are definitely ones to be trusted. I suggest leaving your wallet with them too and see how works out. 😂🤣.

[hellas203]

Originally Posted by BMWCompact

You say this because ....??????????

They won't pull out. Would taxed way more. That's what car builders are doing now. Having multiple plans throughout diff countries to avoid transport costs and taxes. Example Ontario built beater 2011 civic and I believe Honda has a plant in Kentucky and Toyota Illinois or vise bersa.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by TX3M

This is great news for Mexico and their workforce. Not sure what it means for future 3-series owners.

It means ugly tail lights and huge grills. DOOM

[SaNGRia]

Things are getting backwards. ///Mine Proudly Made in Germany !

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

The mystique of a certain geographic location as a contributor to vehicle quality hasn't lived up to its promise. For example, F30 vehicles built in South Africa have been very reliable. Vehicle quality is a complex equation where the quality of parts plays a bigger role.

My German F30 feels like a tank. So did my E90.