[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Esteban

This sounds like a good idea to me but use your experience and help her shop for the car.

Edit: That way she gets her choice and you get to make sure it's a good choice.

Yes. I do all car deals for my whole family. This is The Way.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

I would give her the car. My dad bought me a 2005 Acura RSX Type S my sophomore year in college and I always remember that car. She will remember the car more vs just giving her a check.

Indeed. This is kinda her 4th car but will be the first that wasn't a hand me down.

She had my Ford Fusion company car in HS, My 328d company car in college, and now her aunt's 328i in Law School. I want new and something special for her.

Thanks for the great points!!

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Onesie

There’s no such thing as euro delivery anymore, for a few years now
Unless you go Porsche like murph suggested.

The times, they are a-changing!!

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Another point about you helping her get a car is to make sure she doesn’t spend the 50 in hookers and blow…

I hate when that happens.

[Darth One]

No need to overthink this - a new, black 330i is in the budget and she gets what she wants. I'm sure an intelligent young woman such as herself can be talked out of PITA diesels without warranties

[Esteban]

^^ Makes sense to me.

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by Darth One

No need to overthink this - a new, black 330i is in the budget and she gets what she wants. I'm sure an intelligent young woman such as herself can be talked out of PITA diesels without warranties

Do diesels not have warranties?

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Sounds like a sarcastic question. If so, it is a smart ass way to ask about whether buying a used diesel and then paying for mechanical insurance since the car will be out of warranty, or buying a brand new gasoline car with warranty as the most reliable choice.

Look into CPO...sounds like you are unfamiliar and the many warranty options available.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

She wants to move to a city in the southwest and I can't send her there in her old 3-series.
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And she wants the paint color to be black.
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I was thinking a CPO 4 series convertible.

What city in the southwest? If it is one of the desert areas, I could see a black car or convertible being undesirable in the insane heat.....

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

What city in the southwest? If it is one of the desert areas, I could see a black car or convertible being undesirable in the insane heat.....

have a brother in Scottsdale. Convertible Audi but stayed away from black ext&int even though garaged at home or undercover at work.

[floridaorange]

Mercedes or audi wagon

[Llarry]

A black Diesel in the Southwest sounds like a recipe for disaster. Dieselheads are a special dedicated bunch of tech-savvy people and the whole AdBlue thing is quite the debacle in the USA, which is why the automakers have abandoned Diesel models. So a Diesel will be relatively old and come with reliability and maintainability issues. The black part: What Vreihen16 and Carravagio said.

I understand she no doubt remembers that 328d with affection but that was back before the Diesel sh!t hit the fan.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

What city in the southwest? If it is one of the desert areas, I could see a black car or convertible being undesirable in the insane heat.....

I'm in my 70s now and quite a bit more sensitive to heat in my cars than I was when tooling around the desert West in a car without air conditioning while still in my early 20s. It's quite possible that a young woman with a dark-colored car in the Southwest won't be particularly bothered by dealing with ambient and in-car heat.

From another perspective, I learned living with black cars on the West Coast that they required constant cosmetic maintenance to look good. It was like an on-off switch - because they showed everything, either they looked their best or they looked dirty. Having tired of the constant cleaning, I switched to white vehicles when possible, and the difference was remarkable.

[Llarry]

This thread is interesting -- we are all trying to discourage your daughter's desire to have a black Diesel. Virtually all negative. With good reason, though, I might add.

On the convertible question: A CPO or recent-vintage BMW 4 series convertible is going to be a retractable hardtop model. I think those are cool, but I wonder about the medium-term reliability of that top mechanism.

[Alfisti]

E92 M3 vert. Proper car and an investment of sorts.

Fucking diesel.... .ffs.

[Nuckle]

Hand her $50k and let her go make her first big girl purchase? Thumbs down on a diesel.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I have the most amazing child. My daughter is finishing law school in the spring and hasn't put a foot wrong in life. She wants to move to a city in the southwest and I can't send her there in her old 3-series.

My budget is 50,000 and I'm open to German brands. She is a bit more level-headed than dad (whom she and my chief therapist have pronounced high-maintenance) and told me she wanted a 3-series diesel. And she wants the paint color to be black.

I was thinking a CPO 4 series convertible. She will only be young once and is a really good kid. She saved my life and I have to make her leave me to go to class and study.

Thanks for the suggestions!!

MK. I rarely post to these types of threads, but you probably have seen me post to something cmyx6go posts because she and I tend to think alike for some weird reason. Anyway, as a lawyer who often provides advice and guidance to young lawyers, I would advise against a convertible. She is going to be starting a career in a demanding field and she wants/needs something low-maintenance, stylish, and safe. For me, a new 330i with m sport is the perfect choice (get black sapphire as it's much more resistant to swirls, marks, etc.). I favor this choice so much that a young lady I used to supervise took my advice and got a mineral gray one as her first new car post-graduation and after getting used to the car she proclaimed my advice as perfect.

BTW….glad to see you are on the rebound from the health incident.

[nyalpine90]

z4,m240- black, red interior, black wheels

[CTinline-six]

She saved your life so... a 3-series diesel... in black.

[floridaorange]

and if not a merc or audi wagon then the Volvo V60 would be a nice lawyer ride. Practical, smart, most comfortable driver seat in its class.

[Watching The World Burn]

I like the look of Audi, I like the finish of Audi. I've had one. But I did not like the 7speed DCT (and I deeply suspect there was some tranny related issue going on just before I returned it to the dealer, fortunately managed to have the check engine light off before I returned it) and the turbos blew without any mods and I was just outside of warranty.

As a result, the likelihood of me owning another Audi outside of warranty approximates zero. I'd probably lease another within the warranty period, but never own.

I hate Mercedes. With a passion. Will not own.

Honestly, a well maintained E92 M3 with low miles would probably serve her well. My friends E92 lasted over 300K kms and then he sold it, still running well. If not that, then a newer BMW probably but be a step down in looks and performance.

What about leasing her a car instead of purchasing - tell her the lease is paid up until the end, gets her into some higher end cars. As much as I said about Audi, I still like the RS3.

[XutvJet]

I'm probably way too practical and boring. Given that you can afford to out-right buy her a $50K car for a college graduation present and will give her a down payment on a home at some point, I would assume that she has no college debt as well? If my assumption is correct, that alone is a MASSIVE step ahead compared to the vast majority coming out of school, especially law school. It's also one hell of a graduation present.

Rather than making her life pretty easy with a number of free cars, no college loans, and an eventual home down payment, perhaps an alternative choice could be to give her a $50K check and give her investment advice on what where she could invest it and perhaps spend a bit on a new car if she really needs a new car. By doing that, she has some control rather than getting another thing handed to her/given to her and she bares some responsibility and has control.

Assuming that she's going into law practice, her job will be incredibly hard for the next 2 to 5 years as an associate at firm. It's meat grinder and like being in a young doctor in residency. She will have little time for much of anything. But she'll be making good money from the start. Maybe then, she could get the car she wants with own money.

My son is going to college next year. He won't have loans because he worked his tail off in HS to graduate with 30 hours of college credit, will get some scholarships, and we've set aside enough to cover the remainder. His first and only car was pristine hand me down 2015 Outback 3.6R which he has taken great care of for two years. My 14 y/o daughter said she wants the Outback badly and he said he wants something sporty like a used Mazda 3, Civic Si, or BRZ/GT86 once he graduates college. My plan is to "loan" him $20K next year and he'll give the Outback to his sister. My loan to him will be with no interest and the monthly payments low. The loan will be forgiven when he graduates. His college graduation present will be a Vanguard account and $10K invested in S&P500 index funds and some bonds. I'm all for giving kids help if you can afford it, but I also strongly feel that they need to bare some responsibility and have to demonstrate strong work and personal ethic regardless of how wealthy the household is.

I personally couldn't give my kids a $50K car for graduation, largely because I feel like it creates a situation where the next car will need to be nicer/better thus they'll be wanting a $70-90K when they're not even 30. I feel like you need to put in the time and effort to get the high-end stuff and you can't get it from the start. Just like a job, you work your way up to a nice car, house, etc.