[Our03z4]

Originally Posted by MassWholeBimmer

Pre covid, I would have said "Come'on guys, you are just being overly paranoid".. But then when my private sector employer said I had to get an govt mandated injection to keep my job.. Now I say BS to this government overreach.

I would say this would be perfect during a covid scenario. If they don't want you leaving home they can decide when and if you're allowed to drive. No different than these FLOCK cameras they are putting everywhere. It's literally impossible for me to drive with out being tracked by those all day. Also perfect if there is a stay at home order, they'll know who isn't following "orders" and they'll know where you're going/gone.

People love giving their freedom away in the name of safety. Apparently people can't look at past history and how power was abused for the better good. Germany is a perfect example. Pre Hitler Germany was a beacon for the world and a advanced progressive nation. The tides turned with seemingly innocent changes little by little for "safety". It truly is a snowball effect, give an inch and they'll take it a mile. Once your freedom is gone you won't get it back and once you realize it it's already too late. Most people are short sighted which is the issue.

Sorry your employer did that to you. Luckily mine didn't...but that's because I am the employer.

[Our03z4]

Originally Posted by Shredicus

Huh, bimmerpost hosts more schizophrenics than I realized.

Yeah the government is going to disable our cars so only the coastal elites can drive and turn the frogs gay, but can we talk about the real issue here?

ChEmTrAiLs

Did you know the whole frogs "gay" is actually a real thing? While not "gay" they have turned into both sexes. It's actually caused by a chemical farmers used and still use. Most countries have banned the product except for the USA. I've been a licensed applicator for almost 20 yrs, you wouldn't believe what some of these chemicals do. You should do research before you joke about things.

https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs#:~:text=Atrazine%20has%20caused%20a%20hormon al,genetic%20sex%20of%20his%20frogs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/100301-atrazine-frogs-female-chemical

Oh and the whole "chemtrails" thing. Yeah, they are working on that as you speak.

https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/geoengineering

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2022/01/20/solar-geoengineering-why-bill-gates-wants-it-but-these-experts-want-to-stop-it/amp/

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/new-report-explores-issues-around-solar-radiation-modification

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

This was discussed at length a year or more ago after the infrastructure bill came to light. Smart money is on buying a manual transmission vehicle that does not have advanced driver aids systems (ADAS) before MY 2026.

I got BLASTED for bringing it up

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880977

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Our03z4

Did you know the whole frogs "gay" is actually a real thing? While not "gay" they have turned into both sexes. It's actually caused by a chemical farmers used and still use. Most countries have banned the product except for the USA. I've been a licensed applicator for almost 20 yrs, you wouldn't believe what some of these chemicals do. You should do research before you joke about things.

https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01...%20his%20frogs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...emale-chemical

Oh and the whole "chemtrails" thing. Yeah, they are working on that as you speak.

https://geoengineering.environment.h...geoengineering

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrv...o-stop-it/amp/

https://www.unep.org/news-and-storie...n-modification

The funny thing is that Chem trails are real, and so is atrazine making frogs transgender. Both were mocked as fake, and now even though they basically admit this - people still laugh about it.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Yes. Because criminals will figure out how to use this functionality on you or me.

Criminals = Government

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Shredicus

Is this really that big of a deal if you're not a criminal?

Yes, because as we have seen time and again what seems like a common sense approach by government gets abused by government.

I want less monitoring of my private life, I don't trust government to only use something like this for its intended purpose.

In Canada during covid the government used the tracking of cell phones to monitor the movements of 33 million Canadians, the vast majority of whom are not criminals.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

yall should watch disturbia.


LMFAO i meant eagle eye

got my shia lebeouf mixed up

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I got BLASTED for bringing it up

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880977

That's insane you got blasted, what were your opponents' rational?

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Yes, because as we have seen time and again what seems like a common sense approach by government gets abused by government.

I want less monitoring of my private life, I don't trust government to only use something like this for its intended purpose.

In Canada during covid the government used the tracking of cell phones to monitor the movements of 33 million Canadians, the vast majority of whom are not criminals.

I'm glad that a LEO is on our side. It was unreal, the past 3, 4 years. I cannot believe that our country was so draconian, esp in Quebec. That damn Legault.

[AmuroRay]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...ei=14#comments

There are now fact-checking websites that are designed to counter other fact-checking websites who likewise want to pretend to have the market cornered on factual information. In the end, the vast majority boils down to contradictory talking points and trying to shape a desired narrative. Nobody really knows what the legislation will bring into effect because the relevant decisions haven't been made yet by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

Fact checking websites are just propoganda.

But what is certain is that the provisions included within the trillion-dollar Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act will eventually result in some form of driver monitoring. That's likely to come by either an ignition interlocking device that would require drivers to utilize a breathalyzer before setting off, or some kind of comprehensive driver monitoring system that uses audio-visual cues to determine the driver's present status.

and

Meanwhile, there's a surplus of outlets telling you not to worry as assertions about the forthcoming system's potential to violate civil liberties are dismissed. But these are never based in fact and typically depend on expert testimony operating on an assumption of government benevolence. The Associated Press did exactly this in March of 2023 when it downplayed criticisms of the scheme before quoting Robert Strassburger, president and CEO of the Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety, which is currently involved in a public-private partnership with NHTSA to create these so-called safety devices.

The whole article is scathing.

[cmyx6go]

Why stop at a kill switch? Next up - Speed reduction tech.

These came up in my news feed this morning.

Big daddy government could soon be limiting your vehicle’s speed to keep you and everyone else safe. That’s if the National Transportation Safety Bureau gets its way after it concluded speed-limiting technology using GPS coordinates should be equipped on every car in America. Remember, if it saves just one life, instituting sweeping restrictions on personal freedom is always just a small price to pay.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/federal-...130000154.html

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/f...121541145.html

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Why stop at a kill switch? Next up - Speed reduction tech.

These came up in my news feed this morning.

Big daddy government could soon be limiting your vehicle’s speed to keep you and everyone else safe. That’s if the National Transportation Safety Bureau gets its way after it concluded speed-limiting technology using GPS coordinates should be equipped on every car in America. Remember, if it saves just one life, instituting sweeping restrictions on personal freedom is always just a small price to pay.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/federal-...130000154.html

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/f...121541145.html

It's pretty funny to me that due to a crash caused by someone who's on cocaine and pcp everyone needs their speed limited apparently.

[gonzo]

Topless trannies and cocaine at the WH and we're the ones that need limits...

[Car-Addicted]

The Sheep don't Know. The Wolves don't want to know.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

It's pretty funny to me that due to a crash caused by someone who's on cocaine and pcp everyone needs their speed limited apparently.

That's the excuse, but the government is actively drugging the population and creating the distractions themselves/

say it with me - Hegelian dialect. Create a problem so you can offer a solution, which includes more tracking and monitoring, less privacy and more restrictions.

I'm sure people will call me crazy, but every major event that has occurred has been orchestrated by the government, especially true when it leads to an erosion of "rights"

From 9/11 (Patriot Act, and full access for the government to track and restrict your travel) to Covid (full access to biometric data, and the ability to bypass HIPPA and discriminate against you for medical reasons)

We'll soon be a society of "robots" where because of no freedoms - you're "safe"

[cmyx6go]

Maybe I should rethink buying my X6M at lease end. Why the hell do I need 617 hp? Next will be accelerating too quick.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Our03z4

Did you know the whole frogs "gay" is actually a real thing? While not "gay" they have turned into both sexes. It's actually caused by a chemical farmers used and still use. Most countries have banned the product except for the USA. I've been a licensed applicator for almost 20 yrs, you wouldn't believe what some of these chemicals do. You should do research before you joke about things.

https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01...%20his%20frogs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...emale-chemical

Oh and the whole "chemtrails" thing. Yeah, they are working on that as you speak.

https://geoengineering.environment.h...geoengineering

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrv...o-stop-it/amp/

https://www.unep.org/news-and-storie...n-modification

I knew the second we started a kill switch conversation that it was just a ruse so that we could talk about Anuran sexuality.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

That's the excuse, but the government is actively drugging the population and creating the distractions themselves/

say it with me - Hegelian dialect. Create a problem so you can offer a solution, which includes more tracking and monitoring, less privacy and more restrictions.

I'm sure people will call me crazy, but every major event that has occurred has been orchestrated by the government, especially true when it leads to an erosion of "rights"

From 9/11 (Patriot Act, and full access for the government to track and restrict your travel) to Covid (full access to biometric data, and the ability to bypass HIPPA and discriminate against you for medical reasons)

We'll soon be a society of "robots" where because of no freedoms - you're "safe"

Called crazy by doorknobs is not a problem.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Maybe I should rethink buying my X6M at lease end. Why the hell do I need 617 hp?

Thank you. I'm as much of a speed freak as the next guy and I love the thought of a X5M in the garage next to the M4CS but who needs a 617Hp SUV that gets 18MPG? I'm sure the cost of ownership of a X5M is over the moon. Not surprising that there are almost always a bunch of low mileage X5M's for sale.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Thank you. I'm as much of a speed freak as the next guy and I love the thought of a X5M in the garage next to the M4CS but who needs a 617Hp SUV that gets 18MPG? I'm sure the cost of ownership of a X5M is over the moon. Not surprising that there are almost always a bunch of low mileage X5M's for sale.

I had a 2017 X5M and it was fun as hell. Love that vehicle. My only SUV.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Thank you. I'm as much of a speed freak as the next guy and I love the thought of a X5M in the garage next to the M4CS but who needs a 617Hp SUV that gets 18MPG? I'm sure the cost of ownership of a X5M is over the moon. Not surprising that there are almost always a bunch of low mileage X5M's for sale.

Don’t mean to hijack the thread, I agree you don’t need 617 hp. I had 3 X5s, all V8s. My first X6 was the 2010 E71 50i. It was a beast. I loved it. For whatever reason, when my lease was up, I ordered 2013 E71 X6M. It was crazy high strung, a lot of fun. The only difference between the M and the 50 was the power. Anyway, when lease was up I ordered a 2016 F86 X6 50. I hated it. It seems BMW decided to water down the non M models. The steering was crazy loose, suspension was floatly, handling sucked compared to what I was was used to in my previous 5 BMWs. I lasted 3 months. I found a 2016 M on a lot and switched out. The difference was night and day. Since then, it’s been Ms.

So, I don’t need 617 hp, but it’s the only way for me to have the BMW experience I’ve become accustomed to. I am seriously considering buying my 2022 X6M at lease end because of the direction they (and all car manufacturers) are going with the screen nonsense, but that’s another thread which I have chosen not to post in. Lol.

Hijack over.

EDIT - the fuel consumption has actually improved. I used to get 13 mpg on my previous BMWs, even the non Ms. I’m getting about 15mpg on my mixed hwy/streets drives. I call them smiles per gallon.

[Car-Addicted]

The camels nose is under the tent.
NTSB Calls for Technology to Reduce Speeding in All New Cars
11/14/2023
WASHINGTON (Nov. 14, 2023) – The National Transportation Safety Board investigation into a multivehicle collision in North Las Vegas, Nevada, last year that resulted in nine fatalities has led the board to recommend a requirement for intelligent speed assistance technology in all new cars.
Intelligent speed assistance technology, or ISA, uses a car’s GPS location compared with a database of posted speed limits and its onboard cameras to help ensure safe and legal speeds. Passive ISA systems warn a driver when the vehicle exceeds the speed limit through visual, sound, or haptic alerts, and the driver is responsible for slowing the car. Active systems include mechanisms that make it more difficult, but not impossible, to increase the speed of a vehicle above the posted speed limit and those that electronically limit the speed of the vehicle to fully prevent drivers from exceeding the speed limit.

​To 17 car manufacturers:
​​Install ISA in all new passenger vehicles that, at a minimum, warns drivers when a vehicle is speeding.

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20231114.aspx

To those that think this is contrails and gay frogs, won't you be surprised.

[Canuck335]

I see the Russians have infiltrated Bimmerpost.