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      12-10-2024, 05:37 PM   #23
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Intentionally ambiguous - perfect legalese. No wheel to wheel racing but gets murky for time attack and the like. Sounds like HPDE is ok as long as competitive does not include any timed event. The spirit of the disclaimer is likely to protect their motorsports arrangements.
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Hey, a Mustang that can turn is big news!
There was a C&D review way back when the 2012 Boss 302 came out where it beat a then new E92 M3 around Laguna Seca. That car was amazing, it still had a solid rear axle and yet it was a really capable track car. My dad had a 2013 Boss 302 Laguna Seca, that car was a frickin riot.
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Yeah, but those wheels will be a bitch to keep clean, a no go for me.
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looks like an M4, but 815hp without mods is nice.
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      12-10-2024, 09:30 PM   #28
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So a Mustang is quicker than a Ford GT at the Ring? I must admit though the Mustang GTD sounds great on track.
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Is this the 6th Mustang GTD thread of the day then?
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Do you mean the wing? What exactly would that do besides increase laptimes?
Increase lap times....and aesthetics.
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There was a C&D review way back when the 2012 Boss 302 came out where it beat a then new E92 M3 around Laguna Seca. That car was amazing, it still had a solid rear axle and yet it was a really capable track car. My dad had a 2013 Boss 302 Laguna Seca, that car was a frickin riot.
That was a very special car. It had a solid axle. But it was not the solid axle that came on the other Mustangs. Watts link. Unfortunately a very bad transmission, but if the weak points there were fixed, a very capable car.
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Absolutely Amazing! FORD says they are just scratching the surface.
I mean, it's impressive and all...but if it took THIS long to "scratch the surface", that isn't something to be proud of IMO.
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Yeah, but those wheels will be a bitch to keep clean, a no go for me.
Hahahahahaha!!!
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      12-11-2024, 07:45 AM   #34
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I'll be honest; I've never heard the Nurburgring called "The green hell!" Drama...
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      12-11-2024, 08:33 AM   #35
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That was a very special car. It had a solid axle. But it was not the solid axle that came on the other Mustangs. Watts link. Unfortunately a very bad transmission, but if the weak points there were fixed, a very capable car.
It also had side pipes! That was such a cool car, lol. They don't do cool stuff like that anymore.
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The 2012 Boss could have started multiple threads on here and most of them would have had thousands of replies.

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There was a C&D review way back when the 2012 Boss 302 came out where it beat a then new E92 M3 around Laguna Seca.
Remove the straights and see a different result.
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Yeah, but those wheels will be a bitch to keep clean, a no go for me.
My thought too. I have enough time keeping my 3 BMW's wheels clean.
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Love it. Best Mustang ever, just needs a spoiler delete.
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Remove the straights and see a different result.
Maybe. But it didn't have some.huge HP advayover the e92, it was like 450hp.or so vs 410 in the e92, which was probably offset by (I assume) higher weight in the Mustang. It did have 4.10 gears so corner exit speeds were nuts.

To be fair, the two were not competitors in anyway other than paper similarities. Boss 302 had the base interior, cloth seats, the base audio system, manual HVAC controls... It was not a luxury car at all whereas the e92 was. So it shouldn't be surprising that it was faster, that was it's main focus.
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I'll be honest; I've never heard the Nurburgring called "The green hell!" Drama...
Really? I feel like it's been called that since the early 00s minimum. My first introduction to it was it being called the green hell.
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Jackie Stewart gave it that cringey nickname in the 60s.
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You can get a GT4 Camaro for 260.

I don't see the point of this car at all unless you're a big time Ford/Mustang guy.

A street legal 992 GT3 is faster.
And a better value to say the least. Why does this car need 815hp? Anyone have the weight specs?
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Really? I feel like it's been called that since the early 00s minimum. My first introduction to it was it being called the green hell.
Granted, I've not seen nor read everything ever published about the 'Ring, but I've been a dedicated consumer of most things related to cars for some 50+ years, maybe I just missed it.

And I am a big fan of Jackie Stewart too.
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