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      12-19-2024, 06:43 PM   #23
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Actually this video proves that every new generation smokes the previous generation
Yes… and the F90 is indeed measured at 11.2 which is slower than the G90
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      12-19-2024, 08:00 PM   #24
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The new m5 is too slow. For the first time ever, the previous model is faster
On paper, not in real life though, race is 6 min in:
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Yes slower on papers and draggy numbers wise
In real life roll races and situations where instant torque kicks it is faster then previous models
So if you have f90 comp and you roll race a new one g90 will likely win given instant torque
That is the G90's only advantage is the Torque
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The new m5 is too slow. For the first time ever, the previous model is faster
Well not “too slow” but most probably slower than F90 (Comp?)due to extra 1000lb regardless of extra 100 hp…
But this is not the first time. I have seen some data claiming G8x Manual is also slower than F8x Manual in straight line (0-60 and 1/4 mile) again due to extra weight.
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Yes slower on papers and draggy numbers wise
In real life roll races and situations where instant torque kicks it is faster then previous models
So if you have f90 comp and you roll race a new one g90 will likely win given instant torque
Any data to prove?… well except that single throttle house video which is not clear if it’s repeatable…
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On paper, not in real life though, race is 6 min in:
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Throttle house did a drag race and the G90 beat the F90 in a dig and it pretty much gapped it in a roll.
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Actually this video proves that every new generation smokes the previous generation
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Yes slower on papers and draggy numbers wise
In real life roll races and situations where instant torque kicks it is faster then previous models
So if you have f90 comp and you roll race a new one g90 will likely win given instant torque
You may disagree with me, but if you want the M5 G90 to be similarly fast to the M5 CS F90, you need to install a racebox chip in the M5 G90
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      12-20-2024, 06:40 AM   #29
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Let's say this is the first time BMW introduce a new M5 that's more or less at the same acceleration level of the previous model
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i won't comment on the race but it is almost universally known that this C63S is arguably one of the worst products AMG has ever put out... it is a small sedan that weighs 4700 lbs with a 4 cylinder that sounds anemic lol... i imagine in the US, perhaps they've sold 5 of these at best lol
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Shouldn't they test with the same class, like E?
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Yeah it's critcized for the engine size, weight and sound but that doesn't make it a slow car by any means especially at 670 HP.

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i won't comment on the race but it is almost universally known that this C63S is arguably one of the worst products AMG has ever put out... it is a small sedan that weighs 4700 lbs with a 4 cylinder that sounds anemic lol... i imagine in the US, perhaps they've sold 5 of these at best lol
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Yeah it's critcized for the engine size, weight and sound but that doesn't make it a slow car by any means especially at 671 HP.
sure but the c63 is not nor has ever been an m5 competitor...

this one is so universally panned... mbusa initially pulled it from the us market... my local dealership has one an its been there for 6 months...
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for the M5 to go up against an E63?
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sure but the c63 is not nor has ever been an m5 competitor...

this one is so universally panned... mbusa initially pulled it from the us market... my local dealership has one an its been there for 6 months...
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      12-20-2024, 10:43 AM   #37
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for the M5 to go up against an E63?
This video shows it. E63 is old tech; new one will likely be a beast...hopefully.

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Would love to see the G90 go against a Panamera Turbo/Turbo S/Turbo E-hybrid…
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those things cost like 100k more then the G90, they better f'in win every race you could dream up.
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M5 won the race in a convincing manner. So the question of additional weight can be safely retired.
who allowed this mustang owner in here?
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Shouldn't they test with the same class, like E?
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for the M5 to go up against an E63?
They addressed this in the video, with the reason being similar power outputs, drivetrains and at similar prices. In South Africa, the price difference between the C63s and M5 is about 10%. At those prices, it’s nothing.

I agree, it should be something in the class. But it’s nice to see the comparison regardless, considering the M5 is significantly heavier.
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