[Ex_Stig]

CCBs + no sunroof = possible PCDS car

[M159]

Originally Posted by santiagojv

Not sure about that. I've been at both places (Thermal CA and Greer SC) and they gave me the same answer. They're destroyed.

I just took delivery at Greer on Wednesday. I asked the assigned driving instructor what happens with the program cars when they time out. He said they are auctioned to dealers to resell to the public.

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by Ex_Stig

I gotta ask, did the M5 go into limp mode from overheating?

That was a pretty common issue with the prior gen.

The cooling system for this beast seems a little more robust than the F90. Coolers are HUGE and exposed.

Shawn

[nacs]

Originally Posted by VR1

Unfortunately there’s been plenty of people on these forums who’ve bought these cars on accident, only to discover shortly after.

Would love to hear from them their stories…

[My M3]

Great stuff. Thanks. I am hoping to do this next year. Appreciate the news.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by santiagojv

Not sure about that. I've been at both places (Thermal CA and Greer SC) and they gave me the same answer. They're destroyed.

Of course they are 😂😂😂

[FLOSS M]

Originally Posted by KiWiLiT43

I asked at the track event in SC earlier this year, and they are not destroyed. They are sold as "new" cars as they've never had a registered owner. The mileage is from "marketing events." My recommendation is if you see a "new" M car with quite a few miles on it for a fair price, stay away!

Even the instructor was like "I'm not sure why BMW does this, or who would actually buy one of them knowing what we do to them."

Exactly… since they are never registered… they are sold as “new” 😂

[wax5O]

Of course

[wax5O]

Exactly!!

[CJ421]

Nice writeup, OP.

I got some G90 M5 seat time when I did the two-day M school at Thermal earlier this year. We only used it on the concrete skidpad, so the cars never made it over 25 mph. But in the hour I spent in the car, it was comfortable, composed, and pretty easy to drift.

Charles

[m3cole]

Originally Posted by santiagojv

Not sure about that. I've been at both places (Thermal CA and Greer SC) and they gave me the same answer. They're destroyed.

I appreciate the response, but I’ve literally sold those ragged out cars 🙃. The week I went they sent the m2 fleet off to be sold at dealers and they were mega clapped out. Maybe thermal is different but we have had many performance center cars be sold after they were used there !

[DHDCF]

Originally Posted by m3cole

I’ve literally sold those ragged out cars 🙃.

Did the customer understand what they were buying? Meaning, did you disclose how the cars were used?

[anthemavm]

Originally Posted by Greer

Hi Guys,

Yesterday I had the opportunity to experience the G90 M5 at the BMW Performance Center in Thermal, CA. As someone who has owned and tracked the E39, F10, and F90 M5s, I was eager to see how the G90 would compare. My verdict: it’s impressive. The engineers have done a remarkable job making the car feel lighter than its specs suggest. The cornering, braking, and overall inputs felt very much in line with my F90 M5, and based on what I experienced, the rumored Nürburgring times are completely believable.

Because there were only two of us, we each enjoyed nearly an hour on the track. We cycled through every mode—electric, hybrid, dynamic, and dynamic plus. Despite all the chatter online about the G90’s weight, I found the car quick, composed, and free of excessive body roll. Given the EU regulations BMW had to engineer around, I think they absolutely nailed it.

Of course, the M5 has never been marketed as a pure track car—it’s designed for people like me: professionals who want a refined daily driver that’s comfortable for clients, yet thrilling enough for spirited canyon runs and the occasional track day.

If you get the chance, drive it yourself and let me know your impressions.

Are talking about the real tract, or the one they set up just outside the experience center?

[calbears]

Originally Posted by anthemavm

Are talking about the real tract, or the one they set up just outside the experience center?

real

[m3cole]

Originally Posted by DHDCF

Did the customer understand what they were buying? Meaning, did you disclose how the cars were used?

Yes, it was also evident, 5k mile cars looked like they had 70-80k miles of wear on them. We did not want these cars either. They were often sold at far cheaper that real market value as well so people got “good deals” relative to mileage

[DHDCF]

Originally Posted by m3cole

Yes, it was also evident, 5k mile cars looked like they had 70-80k miles of wear on them. We did not want these cars either. They were often sold at far cheaper that real market value as well so people got “good deals” relative to mileage

Good to hear you all practice proper business ethics.

[mcm412]

Curious as doing a track day soon…what was their recommended setup for the track from the instructors? Assume everything was dynamic plus and maxed out? Did they have you turn on M track mode? Any use of boost function out of slow corners? Max brake regen?

[Greer]

The steering was comfort and everything was dynamic mode, and we did not use the boost function.