New TSX V6/280 HP and will cost 328i money.

PNF · 02-26-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ians

I like to drive my 04 TSX over my E46 328i a lot! My TSX absouletly more powerful than my E46 and just the butter smooth tranny is good enough to make me hate my E46 not to mention the nightmare reliabily on it. And my TSX also dyno to have 15 more hp than my 328i and 3hp more than a 530i(dyno on the same day). But... I hate the new one too.

2000 E46 328i has like 193 hp?... but then again, it is a V6 and TSX is a 4 cyl.

I drove E46 sedan 328i and the TSX, I'd have to say I disagree with you and the 328i power is raw and it pulls faster at low RPM.. at least thats how I felt anyway. didnt dyno both cars, but E46 > TSX..

GreenThree · 02-26-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedogg

Front Grill = FAIL.

If it looked like this and was RWD or AWD...I'd totally go for one:

Yes, much better rendition there. THats a punchy engine, but FWD FTL.

Zirenz2006 · 02-26-2009, 04:53 PM

still hideous

Seminole · 02-26-2009, 04:55 PM

Repost: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230317

AND in the wrong section

blue2fire · 02-26-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seminole

Repost: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230317

AND in the wrong section

Oh, sorry about that. This showed up in Google news, posted without searching.

Was probably rather excited by the prospect.

Saintor · 02-26-2009, 05:11 PM

The manumatic is on paddles only (can't shift with the lever).

Acura was doing fine with the previous TSX/TL. They lost me with the new ones.

1N54E92 · 02-26-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killahbeez

I almost bought a 2009 TSX, but I was too put off by the 4 cly. and front wheel drive. Plus I got a steal on a 2008 328i. The new V6 is a great improvment, but it is still front wheel drive and now cost the same as a 328i. The reason the TSX is a great car is because it was so much cheaper than a 3 series, with all the features you get. Now being the same price as a 328i, with an extra 50hp, I don't think the value is there anymore. This might put a lot of people off, "well I can get a BMW for the same price, whats 50hp". Thats just my opinion.

If I had to spend $32,000 for a new car. Definitely pick a 3 series over the TSX. Even with the V6 it still can't compare with the 328.

1N54E92 · 02-26-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedogg

Front Grill = FAIL.

If it looked like this and was RWD or AWD...I'd totally go for one:

I dreamed of driving that car. AWD version of course. Then I woke up and bought a 335i.

1N54E92 · 02-26-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killahbeez

I almost bought a 2009 TSX, but I was too put off by the 4 cly. and front wheel drive. Plus I got a steal on a 2008 328i. The new V6 is a great improvment, but it is still front wheel drive and now cost the same as a 328i. The reason the TSX is a great car is because it was so much cheaper than a 3 series, with all the features you get. Now being the same price as a 328i, with an extra 50hp, I don't think the value is there anymore. This might put a lot of people off, "well I can get a BMW for the same price, whats 50hp". Thats just my opinion.

If I had to spend $32,000 for a new car. Definitely pick a 3 series over the TSX.

jlstyle · 02-26-2009, 05:36 PM

Acura used to be the manufacture who had perfect looking models.
CL-S/RL/NSX/integra/MDX/Legend etc..
Now it's bunch of nasty looking models everywhere.
Too nasty to even touch.

ians · 02-26-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

2000 E46 328i has like 193 hp?... but then again, it is a V6 and TSX is a 4 cyl.

I drove E46 sedan 328i and the TSX, I'd have to say I disagree with you and the 328i power is raw and it pulls faster at low RPM.. at least thats how I felt anyway. didnt dyno both cars, but E46 > TSX..

first, I dunno bmw ever make a v6!
I own my 328i for 7 yr and my tsx for 5 yr.
I can drive back to back everyday until I got my 335i. I think I know more than you just drove it once. Also the MT tsx is a different animal then the AT one.

ibimmer954 · 02-26-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ians

I think I know more than you just drove it once. Also the MT tsx is a different animal then the AT one.

I agree... I have a friend with a TSX auto-tran. It's nowhere near as responsive as mine with the 6MT. The TSX feels quite a bit different with the MT, the AT was just too mushy for me.

I haven't driven the new TSX at all. But if the steering is really dumbed down like people say it is, I can't imagine what putting a V6 in it will do. It'll drive like a big TL with less interior stuff in it. Ugh.

When I bought my '04 TSX, I tried the TL first... that's what I was planning on getting, the TL. Then I drove the TSX and fell in love with the sporty nature of the car. Sounds like that whole character has been thrown out the window. Too bad.

Instead of using that heavy Accord-V6, why can't they try it with the RDX-style turbo 4-cyl? That would be much more compelling to me.

nicknaz · 02-26-2009, 06:29 PM

always good to have options. glad acura did it but it will be hard trying to actually get that power to the ground though, especially in low speed corners. (camry with the 3.5L motor is a great example of that problem)

just4kickz · 02-26-2009, 06:48 PM

love acura but fwd ftml

blue2fire · 02-26-2009, 07:01 PM

Staszek · 02-26-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ians

first, I dunno bmw ever make a v6!
I own my 328i for 7 yr and my tsx for 5 yr.
I can drive back to back everyday until I got my 335i. I think I know more than you just drove it once. Also the MT tsx is a different animal then the AT one.

Something is wrong with your 328 then.

A stock TSX has a 15.7 1/4 mile (hell edmunds had it at 16.2 and it was a manual)

A stock 2000 328i does it in 15.2 (same edmunds got the 328 in 15 flat and achieved 16 flat in a 2000 323 convertible)

Not saying the TSX is bad its not at all, but a 328 should be noticeable faster and I feel something is off with yours. (coming from a fellow E46 owner)

TheAcAvenger · 02-26-2009, 07:25 PM

all jokes aside, post #37 is pretty sad.

There was a poll on acurazine the other day asking "how often do you use your navigation system." A shocking amount (around 40% or so) said every day, while the majority (50%) said once a month. And then there were the handful that rarely ever use it. I thought to myself, why in the blue hell do you need to use your navigation system everyday...

...Then I remembered back in 2002 when I had a navigation system that actually responded the second I pressed a button, and would let me search for things by name, and had it's own dedicated interface... and then I realized that I used to use my navigation system on the TL everyday.

I love my 335, but damn if BMW isn't so behind on some things (who the hell puts a cd changer in the trunk)

Bobble · 02-26-2009, 07:28 PM

I have a 2000 E46 and it is every bit the equal of and then some of the TSX. I drove the new TL before I got my 335 and that car drove like crap, great interior and good value but beyond numbing drive. Car felt very lazy and slow to respond and I would hate to try and flog that chassis thru any corners. Have not seen nor heard anything on the new Type-S so the jury is out on that. As far as price point goes 34K for the TSX, I got my 08 335 for less than 10K more and there is no comparison there. Like that blue Honda though if I were 20 again, not likely

E90330iS · 02-26-2009, 07:42 PM

thats just like a TL then..

cgpublic · 02-26-2009, 07:49 PM

Add my name to the former TSX owners: An 06 MMC Carbon Grey 6MT.

Terrific daily driver, perfectly mated I4/6MT, not fast but quick enough to have a little fun, FWD but no torque steer and very tossable, outstanding NAV/Bluetooth/instrumentation, great mileage, made in JP with exceptional fit and finish. All and all, a best buy, all for under 30K.

Fast forward to the second gen, 09 TSX.

Exterior: Fail.
Interior: Fail.

Test Drive: "Is the steering supposed to be this way?" "Yes, its improved."

Acura: Next gen RL, TL, and TSX. Power Plenum. Epic. Fail.

BMW 328 vs. TSX? You must be joking.

LI E90 · 02-26-2009, 10:12 PM

I'm kinda surprised they didn't put the turbo 4 in the TSX

mike-y · 02-26-2009, 11:04 PM

yeah, the K23 turbo motor would be a much better fit for the TSX than a V6. I liked the previous model TSX and almost got one, but it was sold out from under me. I'm kinda happy though, because I do like the e90 a lot, and probably wouldn't have even considered the car if the TSX hadn't sold (I only had hondas/acuras for the last 18 years).

02-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#25
Zirenz2006 Brigadier General 1773 Rep 4,685 Posts Drives: G87 M2 Zandvoort Blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: US - NE iTrader: (0)	still hideous
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 04:55 PM	#26
Seminole Colonel 478 Rep 2,032 Posts Drives: Red Flyer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 38.8977° N, 77.0366° W iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 E90 328i [7.00]	Repost: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230317 AND in the wrong section __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 05:11 PM	#28
Saintor Banned 89 Rep 2,446 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MTL, Canada iTrader: (1)	The manumatic is on paddles only (can't shift with the lever). Acura was doing fine with the previous TSX/TL. They lost me with the new ones.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 05:36 PM	#32
jlstyle Lieutenant Colonel 362 Rep 1,762 Posts Drives: Porsche Panamera Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Audi S7 [0.00] 2015 BMW X5 [0.00]	Acura used to be the manufacture who had perfect looking models. CL-S/RL/NSX/integra/MDX/Legend etc.. Now it's bunch of nasty looking models everywhere. Too nasty to even touch.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 06:29 PM	#35
nicknaz Lieutenant General 3196 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	always good to have options. glad acura did it but it will be hard trying to actually get that power to the ground though, especially in low speed corners. (camry with the 3.5L motor is a great example of that problem)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 06:48 PM	#36
just4kickz boku no namae ha... 344 Rep 11,023 Posts Drives: 2006 BS 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: S. Bay Area, CA + Newark, NJ + ChiCity + True Blue iTrader: (11) Garage List 2006 E90 330i [0.00]	love acura but fwd ftml __________________ looking for a PreLCI Black Sapphire e90 front bumper without license plate holes "Akimbo shotguns. Broken wrists anyone? And don't give me that 'it's just a game' bull**. Where the are my akimbo interventions then?! One scope on each eye mother**er!!"
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 07:25 PM	#39
TheAcAvenger Brigadier General 137 Rep 3,132 Posts Drives: 2018 R35 GTR / 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 757 > Nova > Denver iTrader: (1)	all jokes aside, post #37 is pretty sad. There was a poll on acurazine the other day asking "how often do you use your navigation system." A shocking amount (around 40% or so) said every day, while the majority (50%) said once a month. And then there were the handful that rarely ever use it. I thought to myself, why in the blue hell do you need to use your navigation system everyday... ...Then I remembered back in 2002 when I had a navigation system that actually responded the second I pressed a button, and would let me search for things by name, and had it's own dedicated interface... and then I realized that I used to use my navigation system on the TL everyday. I love my 335, but damn if BMW isn't so behind on some things (who the hell puts a cd changer in the trunk) __________________ 2018 R35 GT-R Cicio800 \| 2007 E92 335i - RB Turbos, TC Kline DA Coils, HPA M3 Suspension, Quaife LSD, Stoptech BBK, JB4, FuelIT, AR Downpipes, RDSport Quads, Stett OC, Helix IC, Volk TE-37, Vorsteiner V-35, OSS Headlights \| Retired - 2015 F82 M4
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 07:28 PM	#40
Bobble Major 56 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Whatever POS the wife leaves Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	I have a 2000 E46 and it is every bit the equal of and then some of the TSX. I drove the new TL before I got my 335 and that car drove like crap, great interior and good value but beyond numbing drive. Car felt very lazy and slow to respond and I would hate to try and flog that chassis thru any corners. Have not seen nor heard anything on the new Type-S so the jury is out on that. As far as price point goes 34K for the TSX, I got my 08 335 for less than 10K more and there is no comparison there. Like that blue Honda though if I were 20 again, not likely
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 07:42 PM	#41
E90330iS Major General 147 Rep 6,333 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arcadia, California iTrader: (56) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	thats just like a TL then.. __________________ 2017 BMW M4 DCT Lease Transfer: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8#post23736398
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 07:49 PM	#42
cgpublic Lieutenant 22 Rep 508 Posts Drives: 2015 A3 2.0T Quattro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brooklyn to Bronxville iTrader: (0)	Acura? Epic. Fail. Add my name to the former TSX owners: An 06 MMC Carbon Grey 6MT. Terrific daily driver, perfectly mated I4/6MT, not fast but quick enough to have a little fun, FWD but no torque steer and very tossable, outstanding NAV/Bluetooth/instrumentation, great mileage, made in JP with exceptional fit and finish. All and all, a best buy, all for under 30K. Fast forward to the second gen, 09 TSX. Exterior: Fail. Interior: Fail. Test Drive: "Is the steering supposed to be this way?" "Yes, its improved." Acura: Next gen RL, TL, and TSX. Power Plenum. Epic. Fail. BMW 328 vs. TSX? You must be joking. __________________ Present: 2015 Audi A3 2.0T Quattro \| Scuba Blue \| Sport Past: 2011 E90 335 xDrive (March Build) \| Deep Sea Blue \| Saddle Brown \| Brushed Aluminum Packages & Options: Premium \| Sport \| Cold Weather \| BMW Apps, iDrive & iPod Past: 2008 E90 328xi \| Montego Blue \| Dakota Black \| Brushed Aluminum Packages & Options: Premium \| Sport \| Xenon \| CA \| Heated Seats \| iPod
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 10:12 PM	#43
LI E90 Colonel 140 Rep 2,086 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island iTrader: (2)	I'm kinda surprised they didn't put the turbo 4 in the TSX __________________ 2013 MB C300 4matic 2014 Ford Explorer Ltd 1973 Jeep Commando
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-26-2009, 11:04 PM	#44
mike-y just another bmw douche bag 195 Rep 3,640 Posts Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (4)	yeah, the K23 turbo motor would be a much better fit for the TSX than a V6. I liked the previous model TSX and almost got one, but it was sold out from under me. I'm kinda happy though, because I do like the e90 a lot, and probably wouldn't have even considered the car if the TSX hadn't sold (I only had hondas/acuras for the last 18 years).
	Appreciate 0 Quote