2009 FORMULA 1 CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai)

Schm · 04-15-2009, 11:23 PM

(Jeremy Clarkson Voice) "Will Heikki Kovalainen finish more than one lap? Will Ferrari stop sucking? Will Lewis Hamilton stop being a puss and win a race? Watch and find out!

TSM330i · 04-15-2009, 11:58 PM

I can't wait. What a great season.
Brawn GP is such a great story. Honda wouldn't be in first place anyway - they're using Mercedes engines.
Red Bull cars are running very well too - and they don't have the magic diffusor, so I'm not sure it's going to help out McLaren and Ferrari once they get a chance to develop it properly.

xbook · 04-16-2009, 10:23 AM

Thanks for more F1 porn E90SLAM.

It's truly incredible how they pack those cars for shipping. Seeing them all in their protective cases is a pretty cool sight.

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbook

Thanks for more F1 porn E90SLAM.

It's truly incredible how they pack those cars for shipping. Seeing them all in their protective cases is a pretty cool sight.

What protective shipping???
That's the new aerodyamic regulations for 2010 season!!!!

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:27 AM

More F1 *porn*

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:29 AM

Martin Witmarsh: "OH!!! I shouldn't LIE about the knee injury to the doctor....

!!!"

(Don't flame me....I'm also a McLaren Fan too...just a moment with the liar-gate drama...

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E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:30 AM

"This is even faster with out cars without the double-decker diffusor!!!!"

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:36 AM

Martin: "How come never found out the loophole about the diffusor???"
Stefano: "I dunno....coz we're busy to keep our Felipe baby cool..."

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 10:39 AM

Michelin Man works at gas station now???

booforty · 04-16-2009, 11:39 AM

Renault and McLaren will be using revised diffusers in China

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8002297.stm

E90SLAM · 04-16-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booforty

Renault and McLaren will be using revised diffusers in China

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8002297.stm

Here's the McLaren one...

JOSG328I · 04-16-2009, 12:41 PM

Ok I am new to the F1 bug. I finally started to Tivo the races, and I think the addiction will grow. One thing that is bugging the hell outta me! What is the difference in the diffusers.

I keep looking at pictures between the Brawn & Ferrari and I am just not seeing the major difference. What am I missing please help.

FrankoQ · 04-16-2009, 01:03 PM

Looks like Ferrari will not use KERS in China.

VFX · 04-16-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOSG328I

Ok I am new to the F1 bug. I finally started to Tivo the races, and I think the addiction will grow. One thing that is bugging the hell outta me! What is the difference in the diffusers.

I keep looking at pictures between the Brawn & Ferrari and I am just not seeing the major difference. What am I missing please help.

Look at these 2 images.

The Toyota F109 design allows more air to travel further along the taller central diffuser allowing for more aero manipulation giving more downforce.

The McLaren MP4-20 diffuser cuts short the volume or air that is effected by the central diffuser compared to the Toyota design & what air mass is there doesn't have the same level of manipulation giving less downforce in comparison.

The Brawn diffuser seems even more efficient than the Toyota & the Ferrari diffuser is similar to McLarens.

Hope that helps.

.

booforty · 04-16-2009, 05:30 PM

Looking forward to this race, it should be another good one!

JOSG328I · 04-17-2009, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VFX

Look at these 2 images.

The Toyota F109 design allows more air to travel further along the taller central diffuser allowing for more aero manipulation giving more downforce.

The McLaren MP4-20 diffuser cuts short the volume or air that is effected by the central diffuser compared to the Toyota design & what air mass is there doesn't have the same level of manipulation giving less downforce in comparison.

The Brawn diffuser seems even more efficient than the Toyota & the Ferrari diffuser is similar to McLarens.

Hope that helps.

.

Thank you for the response. But I could not see the images so I did some digging and think I have a grasp on the difference!

Kind of funny on a side note Hamilton & Kovalainen fastest in first practice with interim diffusers. How long will Brawn's reign last once the others convert and catch up.

E90SLAM · 04-17-2009, 10:48 AM

More pics!

rzm3 · 04-18-2009, 02:24 AM

What's up with the BMWs!? Kubica got eliminated in Q1

rzm3 · 04-18-2009, 02:47 AM

...and Heid got eliminated in Q2

WAY · 04-18-2009, 11:30 AM

Looks like another Brawn race. The first three cars are quite a bit lighter than Rubens and Jenson, and Rubens is 2litre heavier. Look forward to the race tomorrow.

EINSER M · 04-18-2009, 02:38 PM

worse finish for kubica this is upsetting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FrankoQ · 04-18-2009, 09:45 PM

What a season!!!

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