Results of my first rig shots.

TWiTCHY · 08-08-2009, 04:23 AM

Try HDR then

radiantm3 · 08-08-2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TWiTCHY

Try HDR then

Is that even possible?

jpsum · 08-08-2009, 07:05 PM

Nice job. But I think all of the pictures are too bright. The top of the cars are washed out. Maybe you should try holding a remote flash from the host car and point it toward your model car? That way you can turn down the exposure a bit?

p.s. - I thought you shot these with another car. But anyways, you get the idea. What shutter speed are you shooting at?

jpsum · 08-08-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

Is that even possible?

Auto Exposure Bracketing, my friend.

radiantm3 · 08-08-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsum

Nice job. But I think all of the pictures are too bright. The top of the cars are washed out. Maybe you should try holding a remote flash from the host car and point it toward your model car? That way you can turn down the exposure a bit?

p.s. - I thought you shot these with another car. But anyways, you get the idea. What shutter speed are you shooting at?

The only solution is getting a darker ND filter (is there one much darker than 8x?) or shooting when it's darker outside. These are 4-8 second exposures to blur the background.

And I could be wrong, but I don't think you can really create an HDR image from a rig shoot.

TWiTCHY · 08-09-2009, 02:19 AM

Do it using single file conversion on Photomatix. 80% of my HDR photos are made with just one RAW.

radiantm3 · 08-09-2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TWiTCHY

Do it using single file conversion on Photomatix. 80% of my HDR photos are made with just one RAW.

That's not really HDR though. How can I gain pixel data that doesn't exist? The blown out areas are pretty much white.

AKbmw · 08-09-2009, 07:02 PM

how much did it cost you to make that rig?

radiantm3 · 08-09-2009, 08:59 PM

A couple hundred at the most. The most expensive piece was the magic arm and that was around $140 or so: http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-143R...9865890&sr=8-8. The actual piping was just from home depot.

ichiban · 09-08-2009, 05:41 AM

have you attempted this again? You should try doing this inside a lit parking garage.

radiantm3 · 09-08-2009, 06:40 AM

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have you attempted this again? You should try doing this inside a lit parking garage.

I did once more (http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiant...7620667245487/), but it was in daylight again. The big issue for me is most of my local friends aren't into cars or photography and taking these photos really is a 2 person job. So I rarely get to practice with the rig. I guess I need to find some photography/car enthusiasts in my area.

ichiban · 09-08-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

I did once more (http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiant...7620667245487/), but it was in daylight again. The big issue for me is most of my local friends aren't into cars or photography and taking these photos really is a 2 person job. So I rarely get to practice with the rig. I guess I need to find some photography/car enthusiasts in my area.

shoot, i'd be down to help you out. I'm in downtown san jose area. Just shoot me a pm.

UdubBadger · 09-08-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

That's not really HDR though. How can I gain pixel data that doesn't exist? The blown out areas are pretty much white.

Oh yes it is... its just bracketed by the computer instead of by hand. You can do a lot with a RAW image, thats why the file size is so damn big.

driftdriven · 09-08-2009, 05:41 PM

BWAHAHA That how you do it!!

I always wondered how you would take shots of the car so low in motion....I'm such a newb!!

radiantm3 · 09-09-2009, 02:34 AM

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Oh yes it is... its just bracketed by the computer instead of by hand. You can do a lot with a RAW image, thats why the file size is so damn big.

It still doesn't take a 0/0/0 or 255/255/255 pixel and bring back the original color. I know you can create an HDR out of 1 image, but it's not nearly as effective as having multiple exposures. Raw files have a lot of data, but they aren't magic.

Carrera RSR · 09-09-2009, 04:18 AM

Cokin P Series ND Graduated filters attached to the lens. Maintains detail in the shadows and prevents blowing out the sky.

http://www.cokin.co.uk/pages/kits.htm

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...IKGTjAfN3OzACA

JC_Sonic · 09-27-2010, 05:45 AM

nice job and excellent pics

Chewy734 · 09-27-2010, 09:48 PM

Nice pics! You did an awesome job with those photos... rig looks good too, but I wouldn't drag your camera strap like that on the floor, cuz it might get caught on something.

radiantm3 · 10-02-2010, 05:20 AM

Thanks, but this is an old thread.

I've done a few more since then.

08-08-2009, 04:23 AM	#23
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jpsum Major 286 Rep 1,088 Posts Drives: 2010 TSX Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Haven area iTrader: (4)	Nice job. But I think all of the pictures are too bright. The top of the cars are washed out. Maybe you should try holding a remote flash from the host car and point it toward your model car? That way you can turn down the exposure a bit? p.s. - I thought you shot these with another car. But anyways, you get the idea. What shutter speed are you shooting at?
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08-09-2009, 02:19 AM	#28
TWiTCHY Colonel 389 Rep 2,526 Posts Drives: '13 AW E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: WA iTrader: (6)	Do it using single file conversion on Photomatix. 80% of my HDR photos are made with just one RAW.
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09-08-2009, 05:41 AM	#32
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09-08-2009, 05:41 PM	#36
driftdriven Captain 57 Rep 905 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	BWAHAHA That how you do it!! I always wondered how you would take shots of the car so low in motion....I'm such a newb!!
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Carrera RSR Colonel 75 Rep 2,937 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Location: Location: iTrader: (1)	Cokin P Series ND Graduated filters attached to the lens. Maintains detail in the shadows and prevents blowing out the sky. http://www.cokin.co.uk/pages/kits.htm http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...IKGTjAfN3OzACA
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JC_Sonic Private First Class 3 Rep 154 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: world iTrader: (0)	nice job and excellent pics
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Chewy734 Major General 492 Rep 6,798 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i ZPP, ZSP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: LA, CA iTrader: (15)	Nice pics! You did an awesome job with those photos... rig looks good too, but I wouldn't drag your camera strap like that on the floor, cuz it might get caught on something. __________________ Currently for sale: [19" Linea Corse LC818 wheel], [19" Fallen FK452 tire]
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