[US///M3]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

That grill looks like complete sh*t!

+1

[py0413]

The Boss predator! I like the interior very much but that exterior design scares me.

[michaelthepsycho]

Looks mean but doesn't have the sporting credentials to back it up.

[NemesisX]

Very brief video, but if you pause it near the end you can get a glimpse of how the tail lights look on the LS600hL at night:

The tail lights actually look pretty sleek. Reminds me a lot of the F10 5 series tali lights which I think are absolutely gorgeous and a work of art from BMW -

[NemesisX]

Apparently Lexus was fiddling around with a 640 HP/520 ft-lb torque version of the LS through one of their sport subsidiaries (TMG) around the nurburgring a couple of months ago -

http://lexusenthusiast.com/2011/09/2...40-horsepower/

0 to 60 in 4.2 seconds - probably a little anemic by AMG standards, but still respectable.

If they can put 640 HP in the LS600, I think the aggressive exterior will be warranted. If not, I agree with michaelthepsycho. Car looks mean (mostly the rear end, I'm not sold on the front end yet) but doesn't have an iota of sportiness to back it up.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

Apparently Lexus was fiddling around with a 640 HP/520 ft-lb torque version of the LS through one of their sport subsidiaries (TMG) around the nurburgring a couple of months ago -

http://lexusenthusiast.com/2011/09/2...40-horsepower/

0 to 60 in 4.2 seconds - probably a little anemic by AMG standards, but still respectable.

If they can put 640 HP in the LS600, I think the aggressive exterior will be warranted. If not, I agree with michaelthepsycho. Car looks mean (mostly the rear end, I'm not sold on the front end yet) but doesn't have an iota of sportiness to back it up.

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by Levi

Now that you mention it I was incorrectly comparing it to the C63 AMG which I know has gotten into sub 4 territory 0 to 60.

I guess with the S63 AMG or Alpina B7, 0 to 60 in 4.2 is very competitive.

I'm not used to thinking about good times for large executive sedans.

[giants84]

Lexus is the best at making a completely generic looking back end of a car, the gs looks like a hyundai sonata from the back. Now the LS looks like a chinese car.

[Alan l.]

I actually think this is better looking than the GS350 Fsport. Seems to suit the bigger car better and the rear end looks better.

Alan

[TunedM2C]

The only Lexus I've ever liked since they've spun off from Toyota was the LFA. Other than that, this brand (style wise) doesn't nothing for me.

[ihc95]

To people who are disappointed, Im pretty sure this is supposed to be a facelift, not a completely new model. Lexus wouldnt half-ass a complete redesign, look at the GS. But who cares. I wanna see the new IS against the F30!

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by ihc95

To people who are disappointed, Im pretty sure this is supposed to be a facelift, not a completely new model. Lexus wouldnt half-ass a complete redesign, look at the GS. But who cares. I wanna see the new IS against the F30!

If the new IS doesn't come with factory turbo(s) and/or at least a crackable ECU and either a manual option or a true paddle shifting manu-matic option a la the ISF, it'll have absolutely zero impact on the luxury sport tuner crowd.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

If the new IS doesn't come with factory turbo(s) and/or at least a crackable ECU and either a manual option or a true paddle shifting manu-matic option a la the ISF, it'll have absolutely zero impact on the luxury sport tuner crowd.

The M3 neither is turbocharged. And next IS-F is too keep its NA 5.0l V8 but making +470 PS/+500 Nm and get a new dual-clutch transmission.