[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by carve

They're about as tasteful as a mural on your car or motorcycle. Even if exquisitely done, it's tacky as hell. And from a distance you'll just look like you have splotchy blue/grey arms, too. LOL- and the car can be easily repainted when your tastes change, has a more even, smooth, flat surface to work with, won't get distorted and faded after a few years, and you don't have to take that car everywhere you go.

It's the difference between sculpture and painting. Both wonderful on their own, and garbage when mashed together; the sculpture is an uneven surface to paint on, making for an awkward and compromised end result, and the paint interrupts and hides the beautiful lines of the sculpture. The body is sculpture. Want it to look good? Take care of your skin and hit the gym- simple as that. Want pictures on it? Silkscreen a shirt- you can change it to suit your mood or the occasion.

Sleeves are great...if you're in the circus.

Wow, never heard someone so anti tattoos. Oh well to each their own, I love all of mine and have no regrets about any of them and still won't have any regrets even when I am on Medicare.

[carve]

Does my argument not make sense? Do you think murals on cars are classy (granted- they are classier than tattoos, but still pretty tacky).

There are a myriad of negative consequences (more so with women than men). What possible benefit does extensive tattooing have?

[MisterSkiMask]

Over Labor Day weekend I saw a woman in her early 50's with a tramp stamp, I am sure she was close to 30 when tramp stamps started to be cool in the mid 90’s. It looked ridiculous, and it is only going to get worse.

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by carve

Does my argument not make sense? Do you think murals on cars are classy (granted- they are classier than tattoos, but still pretty tacky).

There are a myriad of negative consequences (more so with women than men). What possible benefit does extensive tattooing have?

The love for pain, the love for individualism, some have signifigant meanings, some are just because. Each person as to why they choose to tattoo their body is different.

I would like to know what these negative consequences are??

[carve]

1) Your tastes will change, but your tattoos will always be there. It's like picking one shirt to wear for the rest of your life. They WILL look dated in 10 years, and people will be able to estimate when you got it based on the style.
2) Interrupts the shading and lines of your skin. Especially bad if you have great muscle tone, like you do. You can see "big", but not the lines of individual muscles. Bodies are sculpture- not canvas.
3) Can't change them based on the occasion. Bigger deal for women who might want to wear a nice dress or something...like at her wedding perhaps
4) They're traditionally more common in the lower elements of society, and are still more common to those elements today. I'd bet gang members and heoin addicts are much more likely to have tattoos than entrepreneurs and businessmen. First impressions are important. Again- this is an even bigger concern with women- a lot of guys will treat them like sluts, and they'll have a MUCH tougher time landing a good, classy kind of guy. I know a really cute, smart, adventurous girl who's in MEDICAL SCHOOL who has this issue due to her two 3/4 sleeves, and she acts kind of desperate as a result because she can't attract the kind of guys she likes. Without the tats guys would be falling all over her, myself included. With them, she attracts dirtbags who think she's easy.
5) They're going to fade, and your skin will sag as you get old. It conveys a lack of foresight and concern for the future, not to mention they're going to get ugly
6) It's not a very efficient place to have a large picture. It's hard to see, and smooth, flat surfaces convey images without distortion much better. Much of it you wouldn't even be able to see without a mirror.
7) Most of the detail blurs together when you're a few feet away, and you just wind up with blueish greyish yellowish splotchy arms. It looks sickly
8) Health: they hurt to get, can be more prone to infection and damage while healing, are more prone to sunburn and thus cancer, and take extra care in the sun to prevent fading.
9) It shows a lack of self-respect for one's own body, and consequently others might respect you less than they might otherwise. It's intentional, permanent damage to your own skin...not too far removed from cutting/decorative scaring IMO.
10) It typically isn't even that expressive. It's just a picture. If you have to explain it, you could just do the explanation without having the tattoo, making the tattoo pointless.

All that, and they're expensive if you want a decent job done. Other than that, not too much more.

Now the advantages
1) You have a picture on you that you liked when it was new
2) Maybe it's a reminder of something you won't let yourself forget. It had better be BIG, and if it's big, would you forget it anyway?
3) ?

[jb's335]

Originally Posted by intensee92

So Nate is going back to EW? Lol That guy haha. What you going to be doing at EW?

Parts sales, parts/inventory management, social media, photography, videography. I probably have a couple other titles I could fit under but that works atm.

I have a job , its a good one. I have been in the automotive aftermarket my entire career, most people I work with have a whole lot more than a palm tat...

So wtf, nobody else who drives a e9x has a tattoo? I was expecting more than this! But thanks to people who keep this thread on-topic lol

[jb's335]

Originally Posted by carve

NONSENSE! This is foolishness that'll last a lifetime! At least they're small, discreetly located, and black only, vs. a tacky full-color sleeve or something like that.

Palm tat's don't last a lifetime...

[bga23]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

Wow, never heard someone so anti tattoos. Oh well to each their own, I love all of mine and have no regrets about any of them and still won't have any regrets even when I am on Medicare.

Obviously you've never met my father. I don't recall his exact words when it comes to tattoos but porb includes words like "dumb ass, moron, idiot..." and the like.

Guess mostly a generational thing, even though I'm prob part of the age group who is anti-tattoo.

[MidwestGolfBum]

Well, to keep on subject, I will add this. These were what I had in 2008. Haven't added much since.

For those who are saying thing about "not a lot of "respectable" people have lots of tattoos" I would have to respectfully disagree. Have been a business owner since 2008, many of the people I have met along the way have tattoos (some less than others) and it has never been an issue. If the situation does call for it, long sleeves cover them, though that doesn't happen often.

[carve]

Originally Posted by ecjohnston

For those who are saying thing about "not a lot of "respectable" people have lots of tattoos" I would have to respectfully disagree.

I never said that. Plenty of respectable people have 'em...probably most of the people on this thread, and my medical student friend I mentioned above. They're just a LOT more common on dirtbags and sluts, so that's the impression they convey to most people.

I'm 34

[MidwestGolfBum]

Originally Posted by carve

I never said that. Plenty of respectable people have 'em...probably most of the people on this thread, and my medical student friend I mentioned above. They're just a LOT more common on dirtbags and sluts, so that's the impression they convey to most people.

Fair enough. I mistyped, my apologies. I guess I don't see them that way, though I can certainly see how that is possible.

I will agree that it is, typically, a generational thing.

[bga23]

Originally Posted by carve

I never said that. Plenty of respectable people have 'em...probably most of the people on this thread, and my medical student friend I mentioned above. They're just a LOT more common on dirtbags and sluts, so that's the impression they convey to most people.

I'm 34

How can you tell someone is a "dirtbag or a slut?"

And ever heard the old adage "don't just a book by its cover?"

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by bga23

Obviously you've never met my father. I don't recall his exact words when it comes to tattoos but porb includes words like "dumb ass, moron, idiot..." and the like.

Guess mostly a generational thing, even though I'm prob part of the age group who is anti-tattoo.

I say this because I work in the Medicare/Health Care realm and have for 11 years now. I have met and talk to seniors on a regular basis.

[NiVeDh]

That palm tattoo is pretty cool... didn't notice it the other day.

[c0nstant]

Originally Posted by carve

They're about as tasteful as a mural on your car or motorcycle. Even if exquisitely done, it's tacky as hell. And from a distance you'll just look like you have splotchy blue/grey arms, too. LOL- and the car can be easily repainted when your tastes change, has a more even, smooth, flat surface to work with, won't get distorted and faded after a few years, and you don't have to take that car everywhere you go.

It's the difference between sculpture and painting. Both wonderful on their own, and garbage when mashed together; the sculpture is an uneven surface to paint on, making for an awkward and compromised end result, and the paint interrupts and hides the beautiful lines of the sculpture. The body is sculpture. Want it to look good? Take care of your skin and hit the gym- simple as that. Want pictures on it? Silkscreen a shirt- you can change it to suit your mood or the occasion.

Sleeves are great...if you're in the circus.

what a terrible opinion

[carve]

Originally Posted by j0hn

what a terrible opinion

That wasn't very informative. Care to tell me why? What part didn't make sense?

[Gimlet]

A heavily tatted friend of mine sent this to me. I have no where near the same amount of ink, but my philosphy remains the same.

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by Gimlet

A heavily tatted friend of mine sent this to me. I have no where near the same amount of ink, but my philosphy remains the same.

Haha that's pretty awesome!

[kevinbahnz]

tattoos are more common and accepted now then maybe 10 + years ago. It shows with all these tattoo reality shows popping up. i remember when Hart and Huntington first came out on Discovery channel 10+ years ago.

[wrickem]

Originally Posted by Baremeg55

I'm not so sure finding a job is an issue he needs to consider. Looking at the photo, kind of looks like prison garb he's wearing.......

You were able to judge the book by its cover. Here's the story of the eye tattoo guy from Action news:

Jason Barnum is arraigned on charges of attempted murder and felony assault at the Anchorage Jail on Friday, Sept. 14, 2012, in Anchorage, Alaska. Barnum is charged with shooting and wounding an Anchorage Police Department officer on Sept. 13, 2012, in a room of the Merrill Field Inn as the officer and two other officers were investigating recent burglaries. (AP Photo/Dan Joling)

[bolinp78]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

Wow, never heard someone so anti tattoos.

Then you obviously don't get out much.

[carve]

Originally Posted by Sara504

I love her arm. My fear is though the color fading and how many times would it have to be retouched over the course of my life. My wrist tattoo is 2 years old and the photos I posted are when I was retouching it in April.

LOL- didn't you start a thread a few months ago about tattoo removal because you regretted the other one? What is the other one, anyway?

Edit- yeah...here it is...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...too+removal%22

Sounds like you have a tramp stamp, and are tired of people making assumptions about you based on the tat. Isn't that why you get one- to make a statement? It must be, since you can't even see that one without a mirror- it's for others to see. It sounds like it is doing its job just fine- what's the problem???

What makes you think a sleeve will be any different, other than being harder to hide and a huge PITA to remove? Give it 10 years and it'll be every bit as cool as your stamp...probably even more so, since it's far less subtle. It may even get a clever name. Sleeze-sleeve, or slut-sleeve perhaps? Not so different a name than "tramp stamp".

Question for the heavily tattooed people: Do you have murals painted on your BMW? Why or why not?