[Noize]

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

wow... i would have expected better results.... only 1/2 car length? damn... well, i mean, it was a straight line. if that had ONE damn turn, you would have owned it up.

You mean that if there had been one turn, the S2000 would have killed the 335i, right? S2000 > 335i in handling, by a lot.

To the original poster, an intake and exhaust will only make about 5whp or so. They trap around 101-102mph stock, and judging by the numbers in your sig, you'd kill one from a stop or slow roll.

Anything stupid can happen on the street. I had an 11 second Evo, and some gaydar yellow GTO got into the throttle before I did, and I couldn't catch him before we had to slow down. I saw the same car later on the dragstrip, and I practically half tracked him. Don't sweat it. He's either modded or he got in it before you did.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by E90ice

Is it possible that the S2000 was modded, but had a stock exhaust?

He can be F/I with a Supercharger and have his stock exhaust. My previous neighbor with his S/C'd S2000 had an aftermarket exhaust, but he said it was just way too loud and droned on the highway so much that he couldn't hear anything (but the exhaust vibrating his brain)! Anyhow, he took it off and went back to his stock exhaust, but obviously kept his S/C.

[Cadillac Johnson]

Originally Posted by E90ice

Yes, but the forces pull the heavier car back harder than the lighter S2k.
My guess was that he wasn't stock. He had a stock exhaust tough.

When we got to a flat ground he didn't want to race anymore.

The S2K is torqueless. You would have a HUGE advantage going uphill.

Im also gonna go ahead and guess he was all stock. Modding without swapping the exhaust doesn't make any sense.

S2K's are great cars and straight line performance is definately not their strong point. You should have the advantage there, but anything involving a turn and the S2K is way ahead.

[E90ice]

When I shut it down at about 100mph he was 5-6 cars behind me, but it didn't seem like I pulled that much, so thats why I said 2-3 cars. Maybe its just me. Still a little disapointed for some reason....maybe he was modded...there are modded cars out there that look fully stock.

[T Bone]

You guys both were subjected to the same forces, the reason you didn't pull him was you exerted less acceleration force forward over a fixed period of time.

An equivalent race would be on a flat road but for a shorter period. You are not going to pull him by as many lengths.

[mayanh8]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Johnson

The S2K is torqueless. You would have a HUGE advantage going uphill.

Im also gonna go ahead and guess he was all stock. Modding without swapping the exhaust doesn't make any sense.

S2K's are great cars and straight line performance is definately not their strong point. You should have the advantage there, but anything involving a turn and the S2K is way ahead.

Not true.

[wj4]

Originally Posted by lvwirelessguy

You have to drive the S2000 violently to get it to move at all. I had one for a minute, but it got tiresome very quickly

Yes, the car is incredibly slow below 4.5K RPM which makes it kind of not fun to drive in commuting traffic. However on the open road with twisties, the car is incredibly fun to drive, not the fastest thing on the road, but very fun to drive.

[imolazhp_ci]

yeah plus the S2000 has the best manual gearbox in the world. the only thing even comparable is a 360 Modena 6 speed. and thats only comparable. not better. 996 GT3 comes close, and a 997 GT3 is almost there... still not quite.

[OBI_agent]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Johnson

The S2K is torqueless. You would have a HUGE advantage going uphill.

Im also gonna go ahead and guess he was all stock. Modding without swapping the exhaust doesn't make any sense.

S2K's are great cars and straight line performance is definately not their strong point. You should have the advantage there, but anything involving a turn and the S2K is way ahead.

+1....Uphill should have been ur game...335i procede...has freakishly alot more torque then the S2000(400lb/ft>162lb/ft)...I am sure that guy was modded or something.....And about the exhaust...it can be stock, even after supercharging it!

[!Xoible]

that's why i like to keep my 335 look as stock as possible to surprise peoples

[archtop]

Think I'll chime in here since I own a 335i Coupe and an 06' S2000.The 335i will smoke an S2000 ( acceleration wise) uphill,downhill ,no hill and that's stock for stock.That said my S2000 is more fun to drive on a winding mountain road. The gear box is so good I bought the Step for my 335i since the BMW manual....well pale's by comparison.

[!Xoible]

^^^^ nice

[karliejai]

when did you shut it off?

[derryck]

My S is turbocharged and has about 400RWHP and weighs right at 2,700 lbs...the SC'd ones run anywhere from 280ish RWHP to upwards of 400RWHP. He probably had some form of FI if it was close.

[E90ice]

Originally Posted by derryck

My S is turbocharged and has about 400RWHP and weighs right at 2,700 lbs...the SC'd ones run anywhere from 280ish RWHP to upwards of 400RWHP. He probably had some form of FI if it was close.

+1 thats what I was thinking.

[OC Guy]

Stock vs. Stock you should absolutely destroy a S2000.

My last car was a S2000, great car, not a great 1/4 Mile car though.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by E90ice

+1 thats what I was thinking.

He may have been S/C'd...isn't that what I had said?

[E90ice]

Originally Posted by sflgator

He may have been S/C'd...isn't that what I had said?

lol..i know what you said but I was gathering people's opinions before I have concluded the same thing...

[derryck]

The S2000 in stock trim is capable of trapping at up to 101mph but most trap around 99mph...that's at least 3-4 mph shy of a stock 335...more like 5-6mph shy. With gears and a few other bolt-ons they might pull a trap in the 104-105 range but that's a bit unusual. The lack of torque and not switching to the VTEC cam until 6K RPM's definitely puts the 335 at a substantial advantage especilally from a roll.

[roller84]

Originally Posted by E90ice

I raced a Honda S2000 on a steep uphill, from about 40-100mph and was only able to pull 2-3 cars on him. He looked stock, but you never know...

The S2000 weights about 2800 lbs. Driver had a female passanger.

The 335 weights about 3600 lbs + me 230 lbs + 50 lbs bag in my trunk.

When we got to a flat ground, he didn't want to race anymore.

I know the steep uphill must have worked against me (since my car is way heavier) but I'm still a little disapointed. I was expecting to rape him.

He had to have F/I. I have raced my friend(who is a very good stick shift driver) in his S2K, in my E46 330i and it has been pretty close. Though my 330i has an intake, pullies, and ECU tune. On flat roads the S2k will pull on my slowly. However, uphill I would reel him in. The S2K's have little torque and that counts against it when going uphill.

I also raced one in my 335i, on the highway, and completely raped it by buslengths. I have procede though.

[derryck]

He had to have F/I.

Like I mentioned, gears and other bolt-ons could get an S trapping around 105mph which would put it very close to a stock 335. While they definitely have a torque defecit a competent driver knows how to keep the car on the VTEC cam which minimizes the torque deficit.

[roller84]

Originally Posted by derryck

Like I mentioned, gears and other bolt-ons could get an S trapping around 105mph which would put it very close to a stock 335. While they definitely have a torque defecit a competent driver knows how to keep the car on the VTEC cam which minimizes the torque deficit.

Your right, with bolt-ons it seems more possible. A competent driver behind the wheel is key for this car, though.