[kyriian]

https://elements.visualcapitalist.co...cle-batteries/

but eChOoOoO cHaMbEr amirite?

[M5Rick]

Time for some more MacMaster (I know you like it) and his constant worrying of where he can find a suitable and working charger as the miles tick down and never mind possibly waiting wasting time in a queue waiting for one, being a Porsche knowing that it will drop down quicker using some welly and as the weather gets colder.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Time for some more MacMaster (I know you like it) and his constant worrying of where he can find a suitable and working charger as the miles tick down and never mind possibly waiting wasting time in a queue waiting for one, being a Porsche knowing that it will drop down quicker using some welly and as the weather gets colder.

I really think his diet is going to kill him first.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I really think his diet is going to kill him first.

I guess he just hasn't time to make himself more healthy sarnies like I suggested with drinks and a thermos flask of coffee when he's on the move.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I really think his diet is going to kill him first.

What would kill me is boredom. Waiting 35 minutes to add just 65% of range is idiotic. By the time he has elections flowing, I'd have recharged my ICEV and been on my way.

In the NBC piece, it said 53% of Americanos accept waiting an hour to recharge. Eff that. Those must be the folks stuck with their EV and voted for Walter. Sorry, I'm gas 'n go. Call me when it's equivalent. Lol.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

What would kill me is boredom. Waiting 35 minutes to add just 65% of range is idiotic. By the time he has elections flowing, I'd have recharged my ICEV and been on my way.

In the NBC piece, it said 53% of Americanos accept waiting an hour to recharge. Eff that. Those must be the folks stuck with their EV and voted for Walter. Sorry, I'm gas 'n go. Call me when it's equivalent. Lol.

You posted on here today at 4:47 AM EST. If boredom was going to kill you then you would already be dead.

[M3WC]

Volkswagen Cuts EV Output at German Sites as Demand Craters

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...wall#xj4y7vzkg

Third brand this week to announce EV production cuts due to waning demand.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Third brand this week to announce EV production cuts due to waning demand.

Maybe, Hard to stop a charging elephant.

Volkwagen ramps EV production back up in Germany after demand lull
Regional German newspaper Sächsische Zeitung reported on Monday, however, that production had resumed at normal levels.

Volkswagen is still concerned about demand, and Sächsische Zeitung reported that the company has warned that 2,200 jobs could be cut at Zwickau if demand does not pick up.

The news comes a fortnight after it was similarly reported that Volkswagen had scrapped plans for an additional EV factory in Wolfsburg, a decision it blamed on weak demand.

https://thedriven.io/2023/10/20/volk...r-demand-lull/

When simple forces like supply and demand have been circumvented by government largess and cafe standards along with ESG financing and carbon emissions regulatory credits one can expect a lot of bad mistakes on the part of manufactures. The news any auto manufacturer dreads is that there is a 100 day supply on dealers lots.

As carbon emissions regulatory credits dry up the future of EV production will change from inevitable to realities of capitalism.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

What would kill me is boredom. Waiting 35 minutes to add just 65% of range is idiotic. By the time he has elections flowing, I'd have recharged my ICEV and been on my way.

In the NBC piece, it said 53% of Americanos accept waiting an hour to recharge. Eff that. Those must be the folks stuck with their EV and voted for Walter. Sorry, I'm gas 'n go. Call me when it's equivalent. Lol.

I'm calling BS to the waiting an hour to charge. I won't go into a gas station now if there's a line up at the pumps. I can't imagine having to take an hour to charge, and if there were a few other cars ahead of me to charge I'd be taking hostages.

[gonzo]

^
Easy fix. Go late night to early morning. That's when the bestasus people are out too.
Y'all could all have tea and scrumpets while you charge.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

In the NBC piece, it said 53% of Americanos accept waiting an hour to recharge.

I'm thinking that 53% is either not employed, have kids or any other responsibilities. The 70% I know are the ones that either Honk their horn or pull out of line when the line at Micky D's takes longer that 5 minutes to get a big Mac.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'm thinking that 53% is either not employed, have kids or any other responsibilities. The 70% I know are the ones that either Honk their horn or pull out of line when the line at Micky D's takes longer that 5 minutes to get a big Mac.

The best part of 30 years of shift work was that I never stood in line for anything. I did all my chores in off hours. I simply can't stand lining up.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I simply can't stand lining up.

Standing in lines has often turned out badly for folks.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

The best part of 30 years of shift work was that I never stood in line for anything. I did all my chores in off hours. I simply can't stand lining up.

The French are the same.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I'm calling BS to the waiting an hour to charge. I won't go into a gas station now if there's a line up at the pumps. I can't imagine having to take an hour to charge, and if there were a few other cars ahead of me to charge I'd be taking hostages.

On the EV forums the BIG issue is the EV owners who do not understand the maximum charge capacity of their EV is just 150KW and they use the 350KW charger. Oh man, is that some serious breach of charging etiquette.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'm thinking that 53% is either not employed, have kids or any other responsibilities. The 70% I know are the ones that either Honk their horn or pull out of line when the line at Micky D's takes longer that 5 minutes to get a big Mac.

Or it’s entirely made up. Most people can’t be bothered to cook (or wait) much less drive to their food (delivery) you want me to believe they would be ok with waiting for their car to drive?

Nah.

Edit:

This is obviously for people who are interested in BEVs which is less than a quarter of the population. Poll is a lie.

[secretsquirrel]

I went from a F80 to a Model 3 performance. This car is no frills, but it's quick, handles decently, and super reliable. I like waking up each morning with a full "tank of gas". Charging stations waits don't mean anything to me as I only use them when going on a long trip (maybe 3-4 times/year)

I've been thinking of getting a G80. I miss the rumble of downpiped turbo BMW, but I think i'm going to wait and see how the economy reacts. I will have a hard time going back to gas stations and pumping gas, particularly in the winter.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Standing in lines has often turned out badly for folks.

Have it over here in Blighty, standing in EV charge line there's always a smart az that pushes in and before you know it there a punch and judy show.. welcome to EV charging.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

I went from a F80 to a Model 3 performance. This car is no frills, but it's quick, handles decently, and super reliable. I like waking up each morning with a full "tank of gas". Charging stations waits don't mean anything to me as I only use them when going on a long trip (maybe 3-4 times/year)

I've been thinking of getting a G80. I miss the rumble of downpiped turbo BMW, but I think i'm going to wait and see how the economy reacts. I will have a hard time going back to gas stations and pumping gas, particularly in the winter.

Charging stations are for people who travel.

A person who buys an ev but can’t charge at home then complains about it is not the fault of the car, but the fault of the buyer.

I wake up with a full charge everyday and I have level 1 at home.

People think you can just dump an assload of energy into a battery so it can be charged in 3 minutes is laughable.

Let me know if you can fully charge your phone from 10-100% in 5 minutes. And that’s a tiny ass battery.

Some people will never understand this. But they will soon when govt forces it on us lmaooooo

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Charging stations are for people who travel.

A person who buys an ev but can’t charge at home then complains about it is not the fault of the car, but the fault of the buyer.

I wake up with a full charge everyday and I have level 1 at home.

People think you can just dump an assload of energy into a battery so it can be charged in 3 minutes is laughable.

Let me know if you can fully charge your phone from 10-100% in 5 minutes. And that’s a tiny ass battery.

Some people will never understand this. But they will soon when govt forces it on us lmaooooo

Nope, public chargers are for people who travel (more than 250 miles) AND for people who don't have access to private overnight charging, which is the majority of people in the US.

The difference with a phone is you can still use the phone when it is plugged in and charging; it's not a transportation device.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Nope, public chargers are for people who travel (more than 250 miles) AND for people who don't have access to private overnight charging, which is the majority of people in the US.

The difference with a phone is you can still use the phone when it is plugged in and charging; it's not a transportation device.

Charging stations are for people who want a charge period.

Their intention was to give people that, “on the move (lmao)”, feeling similar to what a gas station gives you. You can’t fill your car with gas at home.

If you don’t have private charging and you buy an ev, then complain about charging isn’t the fault of the car. It just means YOU weren’t ready to get an ev.

People who have level 1 at home do just fine.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

I went from a F80 to a Model 3 performance. This car is no frills, but it's quick, handles decently, and super reliable. I like waking up each morning with a full "tank of gas". Charging stations waits don't mean anything to me as I only use them when going on a long trip (maybe 3-4 times/year)

I've been thinking of getting a G80. I miss the rumble of downpiped turbo BMW, but I think i'm going to wait and see how the economy reacts. I will have a hard time going back to gas stations and pumping gas, particularly in the winter.

Never thought I would see a sentence where it says rumble of a DP turbo 6 cylinder BMW. Lol. More like a chainsaw on steroids? Maybe it’s my ears