[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Russ is dreaming if he thinks they have a chance to keep Sainz behind them. Merc is down over 1sec+ in race pace. You know Lando isn't going to give them an inch.

Still, HAM (P5) and RUS (P6) can play cat and mouse with SAI (P9), holding him up, allowing RIC (P7), OCO (P9) and ALO (P10) to chase him and possibly provoke a pilot error.

Between RUS and HAM: RUS complained twice via on-board radio near the end of Q3 (after the ALO crash) that HAM should pick up pace as time was ticking away to Q3 end. They both made it in time, but it must have been frustrating for RUS that his first complaint wasn't adressed straightaway by the team and HAM (if informed by the team).

If SAI and ALO had not been unlucky during Q3, they would have pushed back HAM and RUS to P7 and P8. But that's motor racing.

[Killed by Death]

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

As regards LEC and VER: I hope to see some hard-fought but fair battles. May the best win. None of both has an interest in a DNF crash. They better wisely share P1 and P2 now that Merc-AMG has not sorted out yet its W13 gremlins.

VER should realize that if he cannot beat LEC in this race (IMHO FP and Q indicates that LEC has the edge over him), P2 still bags him 18 precious points (+ 1 point for fastest lap, if possible), rather than 0 points as a result of ending up in the walls because of having pushed the car over the limit.

But.....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Of course, it was too much of an occurrence to be just coincidence with Seb and this form of management is echoed by the reds going back to the 1950's.

At that time ,as we know Ferrari was running really bad...PU and chassis !

The car was uncontrollable because the floor really s@CKED !
Charlie got the new upgraded floor and was doing better . And SEB had to crash in the next 7 races with the old floor !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

At that time ,as we know Ferrari was running really bad...PU and chassis !

The car was uncontrollable because the floor really s@CKED !
Charlie got the new upgraded floor and was doing better . And SEB had to crash in the next 7 races with the old floor !

Even strong willed Carlos can't stand up to the Ferrari big game however El Matador jnr flexes his Spanish muscle, no number 2 ever has.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sainz had big issues in the Ferrari box . They couldn't start his PU on time , because the starter was broken ...
Sainz had to do everything in a hurry to make it on time , and had to run on cold tyres !

Sainz was/is furious ...

Thats still not a good excuse because despite being rushed he was out lapping before the red flag which stopped running. Sure he didn't get to set a good time, but that means his car was ready to go after the red flag to set a good time, but he couldn't do it. Russell also didn't get to set a good time until after the red flag but he still pulled it off in that short period of time.

Regardless though, Sainz is probably the number 2 driver at Ferrari now.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I can see Max and Lec starting on yellows myself..but we could both be wrong.
The danger is NOR and HAM starting on reds.

Even if the w13 is on reds I don't think it has the pace to threaten the top 3.

[Artemis]

Interesting to notice:

• McLaren (NOR and RIC) has improved since the previous two races;
• SAI and ALO were faster in Q2 than HAM in Q3;
• Q2 time of SAI would have been P4 in Q3 (due to bad luck SAI was virtually 1 second slower in Q3 compared to Q2).

[M5Rick]

Understandably disgruntled VET was asking where the money goes when he was fined 5k euro for riding a scooter on the track, more to the point where is it kept.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Understandably disgruntled VET was asking where the money goes when he was fined 5k euro for riding a scooter on the track, more to the point where is it kept.

He should have kept the scooter

[NickyC]

Darn, I wanted to see what Alonso was going to do in Q3!

It's sure shaping up to be a Leclerc vs. Verstappen year. I have to give the nod to Verstappen though, I think Leclerc is too nice of a guy and Max is a killer.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Darn, I wanted to see what Alonso was going to do in Q3!

It's sure shaping up to be a Leclerc vs. Verstappen year. I have to give the nod to Verstappen though, I think Leclerc is too nice of a guy and Max is a killer.

Probably true, how hard can you be growing up in Monaco

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Probably true, how hard can you be growing up in Monaco

To me being hard doesn't matter. Having your emotions in check is far more important and Max let's his emotions control him at times, Charles doesn't and he has shown he can use that against max.


Also the Ferrari is a huge factor, if there is more untapped speed then redbulls sole advantage is done. Also it depends on if Ferrari can keep it together and keep development steady and keep making good strat calls, or if they revert back to full clown "copy we're checking".

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by F87source

To me being hard doesn't matter. Having your emotions in check is far more important and Max let's his emotions control him at times, Charles doesn't and he has shown he can use that against max.


Also the Ferrari is a huge factor, if there is more untapped speed then redbulls sole advantage is done. Also it depends on if Ferrari can keep it together and keep development steady and keep making good strat calls, or if they revert back to full clown "copy we're checking".

True, LEC can keep his cool while VER is losing his mind. It's worked well so far but I don't know if Charlie can get f**king ugly if needed. My boy Kimi lacked that quality and it hurt him.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Darn, I wanted to see what Alonso was going to do in Q3!

It's sure shaping up to be a Leclerc vs. Verstappen year. I have to give the nod to Verstappen though, I think Leclerc is too nice of a guy and Max is a killer.

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Probably true, how hard can you be growing up in Monaco

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

True, LEC can keep his cool while VER is losing his mind. It's worked well so far but I don't know if Charlie can get f**king ugly if needed. My boy Kimi lacked that quality and it hurt him.

2012 ! The Face check ...

Charlie : It was nothing . It was just a racing incident ...

IMHO . I fear the worst !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

He should have kept the scooter

I heard the thing was a EV . But yeah , you are right !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

True, LEC can keep his cool while VER is losing his mind. It's worked well so far but I don't know if Charlie can get f**king ugly if needed. My boy Kimi lacked that quality and it hurt him.

Getting ugly and trying to fight for little things is stupid imo, better to live to fight another day. It almost cost max the championship last year not 3anting to give an inch.

[Bubbles]

Ferrari PU is top of the class. Rocket acceleration 220 to 300 is unmatched on the grid. Red Bull needs DRS to keep it close.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Ferrari PU is top of the class. Rocket acceleration 220 to 300 is unmatched on the grid. Red Bull needs DRS to keep it close.

The ferrari has much shorter gearing too, so there's that.

[TheBingoBalls]

Still deciding if I want to stay up for the next 2 hours or so to watch.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Still deciding if I want to stay up for the next 2 hours or so to watch.

It's an exciting track so I'd do it, plus it's the weekend so why not! Sleep for Monaco, stay up for this.

[TheBingoBalls]

Damn. LEC is on his own now…that's so disappointing.