Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

KRS_SN · 12-10-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

They don’t tend to have a deep inventory sitting around.

To the contrary there's tonnes of them waiting for an owner
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventor...by=plh&range=0
Just check out the new inventory list

Car-Addicted · 12-10-2023, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

They don’t tend to have a deep inventory sitting around.

Really? 90 days is DEFCON 1 for car dealers.

Electric vehicles (EVs) are piling up on car lots across the country as the green revolution hits a speed bump, data show.
Nov 14,2023
EV inventories have increased by 506% from a year ago, with EVs sitting on lots for longer, according to CarGurus’ October report, released this month. EVs sit on the market an average 82 days versus 64 days for gas-powered vehicles, it said. In response to slowing demand, automakers like Ford and GM are cutting production.

EVs are still too expensive for most people, even with government incentives, surveys say.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...p/71572499007/

Car-Addicted · 12-10-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KRS_SN

To the contrary there's tonnes of them waiting for an owner
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventor...by=plh&range=0
Just check out the new inventory list

You may have been looking for this?
The current live total is 7227 cars. This is an increase of 119 from last weeks 7108, an increase of 7227 from last months , and an increase of 2262 from last quarters 4965,

Comprising
Model S : 521 (130 or 33.2% on last quarter)
Model X : 329 (-311 or -48.5% on last quarter)
Model 3 : 1995 (551 or 38.1% on last quarter)
Model Y : 4382 (1892 or 75.9% on last quarter)

Limit the amount of history by selecting how many quarters to go back below
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventor...l/Americas?q=4

Condorll · 12-10-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Musk doesn't exactly give a specific answer probably avoiding the big question if it could really happen.

EV Bombs all over America!

gblansten · 12-10-2023, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You may have been looking for this?
The current live total is 7227 cars. This is an increase of 119 from last weeks 7108, an increase of 7227 from last months , and an increase of 2262 from last quarters 4965,

Comprising
Model S : 521 (130 or 33.2% on last quarter)
Model X : 329 (-311 or -48.5% on last quarter)
Model 3 : 1995 (551 or 38.1% on last quarter)
Model Y : 4382 (1892 or 75.9% on last quarter)

Limit the amount of history by selecting how many quarters to go back below
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventor...l/Americas?q=4

For the M 3 I have 5727 cars sold in the US per month which was 63000 cars total 1-23 to end of 11-23. So there are 1995 M 3 cars available. That doesn’t sound like a lot. I may be missing something.

Edit: I need a better data source. Looks like Tesla sells way more Model 3s in the US so the available inventory looks tiny.

Edit 2: per this https://www.autoweek.com/news/a45460...-after-tesla/# around 162K Model 3s over the first three quarters. So 18K cars a month. 1995 cars on hand seems pretty good.

Car-Addicted · 12-10-2023, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chriseran

I think there can be problems sometimes, but evs are a great option.

Really that's what you get from this video?

Great idea, Rent a EV before you buy. The road noise is insane, (EV Tires)? A trip to the gas station is looking pretty good to me.

Car-Addicted · 12-10-2023, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

I may be missing something.

This is better read.
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventory-stats-regional/US

gblansten · 12-10-2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Really that's what you get from this video?

Great idea, Rent a EV before you buy. The road noise is insane, (EV Tires)? A trip to the gas station is looking pretty good to me.

The Model S Plaid is getting around 61-70 db at 75 mph.

https://teslanorth.com/2021/07/25/te...l-meter-video/

At 70 mph it was running 65-68 db.

Readings per C&D for my M5 latest gen at 70 mph were 66-74 (latter is at WOT).

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...5-test-review/

Those seems fairly comparable.

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S T2 tires have a foam liner in them. I never am bothered with tire drone.

gblansten · 12-10-2023, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

This is better read.
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventory-stats-regional/US

Great link. Looking at monthly sales of the various vehicles standing inventory looks pretty good.

Car-Addicted · 12-10-2023, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

The Model S Plaid is getting around 61-70 db at 75 mph.

I still thinks the road noise is insane on the video. When I had my X3 the road noise sucked too and it was related to the stupid truck tires they used back then. Hated that SUV.

gblansten · 12-10-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I still thinks the road noise is insane on the video. When I had my X3 the road noise sucked too and it was related to the stupid truck tires they used back then. Hated that SUV.

I have enjoyed the overall quietness of my specific Tesla. I have no experience in any other makes or models of EVs.

gonzo · 12-10-2023, 07:04 PM

More encouraging news from the green church overlords. Because, you know, everything they try and do is such a colossal success!

“California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X, previously Twitter. “With $3 billion in new federal funding, we take an important leap closer to making high-speed rail a reality in California.”

Over a decade. A decade and not a foot of rail...

Imagine what a deep dive audit of that project would uncover.

California is forging the way forward for the future!
Just pay no attention to the 68B deficit.
Look...SQUIRREL

gblansten · 12-10-2023, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

More encouraging news from the green church overlords. Because, you know, everything they try and do is such a colossal success!

“California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X, previously Twitter. “With $3 billion in new federal funding, we take an important leap closer to making high-speed rail a reality in California.”

Over a decade. A decade and not a foot of rail...

Imagine what a deep dive audit of that project would uncover.

California is forging the way forward for the future!
Just pay no attention to the 68B deficit.
Look...SQUIRREL

I wouldn’t call high speed rail a green church plan. Rail is reasonable and used all over the planet. This Cali project will be a fiasco because of so many unfavorable exigencies and will likely never come to fruition.

But I wouldn’t call rail something only enviro loonies want.

gonzo · 12-10-2023, 07:48 PM

^
Absolutely. Rail has been a European model of success for ions.
Thing is, both Nance and Gavski ARE green church leadership and that project has been touted as a pollution killer. Too bad they and their friends are depositing the billions. Mention Federal audit and they're in Brazil the next morning.

Mucho pro rail myself. Texas is stuck with a big project but it's more of a "we're not selling our ranches" problem along desired line location(s).

M5Rick · 12-11-2023, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chriseran

I think there can be problems sometimes, but evs are a great option. Specially they are cost friendly.

Care to open up on that.

kyriian · 12-11-2023, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Care to open up on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Really that's what you get from this video?

Great idea, Rent a EV before you buy. The road noise is insane, (EV Tires)? A trip to the gas station is looking pretty good to me.

Think you guys responded to a bot. Low post count, joined literally this month, and responding to the first post of over 240+ pages sound like a bot

UPSROD · 12-11-2023, 09:17 AM

Really SICK of seeing this tread!!!

gblansten · 12-11-2023, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSROD

Really SICK of seeing this tread!!!

You forgot the pic. Is this about a certain brand of tire?

UPSROD · 12-11-2023, 10:12 AM

Thread!

gblansten · 12-11-2023, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSROD

Thread!

You have a hem loose?

ggunn9 · 12-11-2023, 10:33 AM

I don't understand why so many people that have no experience with an EV have such harsh options about EVs.

I sold my 2018 BMW x5 s35i for a 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance edition. I am not a tree hugger. I don't imagine I am saving the plant with my one EV. I changed because I got tired of buying premium gas, I got tired of doing all the maintenance, oil and spark plug changes. I loved that X5. It was a great vehicle and I had a Bootmod3 tune on it. That thing was fast.

My Tesla is even faster with no maintenance. I'm not here to argue or tell you that you need to get rid of your ICE vehicle. I get it EVs don't work for everyone, but thsi Model Y works for me. I have certain routine trips I take. I used to have to stop for gas $40-$60. Now I stop to charge $4-$6. I'm not saying I am saving a ton of money on my EV. I think the cost of the EV made up for the difference. $15k more than my X5. But perhaps I get that money and time back by not having to change the oil, spark plugs or trans fluid. IDK.

I just know I like my Tesla Model Y. Charging does not take as long as people talk about. I have never spent more than 15 mins charging on the road. The goal is to charge enough to get to the next charger not to 100%. I have grown to enjoy the 15 mins of relaxing in the car or getting a snack or using the bathroom on that stop. Once I stopped in Atlanta, GA to charge. I decided to kill the charge time with a meal. By the time I got inside the restaurant next door. The car was done charging. I had enough juice to make it home.

My EV works for me and that is all I care about. The instant power is there when I want it. I'm not sure how long I will keep it. On average I keep a car 6-8 yrs. I only kept the X5 2 yrs.

M5Rick · 12-11-2023, 10:36 AM

The latest airport car park fire at Bristol destroying around a dozen vehicles.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/...hrough-8965915

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gonzo Lieutenant General 10318 Rep 14,445 Posts Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas iTrader: (0)	More encouraging news from the green church overlords. Because, you know, everything they try and do is such a colossal success! “California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X, previously Twitter. “With $3 billion in new federal funding, we take an important leap closer to making high-speed rail a reality in California.” Over a decade. A decade and not a foot of rail... Imagine what a deep dive audit of that project would uncover. California is forging the way forward for the future! Just pay no attention to the 68B deficit. Look...SQUIRREL __________________ Crazy Diamond Last edited by gonzo; 12-10-2023 at 07:15 PM..
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ggunn9 Private 160 Rep 91 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW X5 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: USA, Georgia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 X5 [0.00]	I don't understand why so many people that have no experience with an EV have such harsh options about EVs. I sold my 2018 BMW x5 s35i for a 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance edition. I am not a tree hugger. I don't imagine I am saving the plant with my one EV. I changed because I got tired of buying premium gas, I got tired of doing all the maintenance, oil and spark plug changes. I loved that X5. It was a great vehicle and I had a Bootmod3 tune on it. That thing was fast. My Tesla is even faster with no maintenance. I'm not here to argue or tell you that you need to get rid of your ICE vehicle. I get it EVs don't work for everyone, but thsi Model Y works for me. I have certain routine trips I take. I used to have to stop for gas $40-$60. Now I stop to charge $4-$6. I'm not saying I am saving a ton of money on my EV. I think the cost of the EV made up for the difference. $15k more than my X5. But perhaps I get that money and time back by not having to change the oil, spark plugs or trans fluid. IDK. I just know I like my Tesla Model Y. Charging does not take as long as people talk about. I have never spent more than 15 mins charging on the road. The goal is to charge enough to get to the next charger not to 100%. I have grown to enjoy the 15 mins of relaxing in the car or getting a snack or using the bathroom on that stop. Once I stopped in Atlanta, GA to charge. I decided to kill the charge time with a meal. By the time I got inside the restaurant next door. The car was done charging. I had enough juice to make it home. My EV works for me and that is all I care about. The instant power is there when I want it. I'm not sure how long I will keep it. On average I keep a car 6-8 yrs. I only kept the X5 2 yrs. __________________ '13 Toyota 4Runner(sold) '16 Suzuki GSX-R750 motorcycle(sold) '18 X5 F15 sdrive stg 1 (sold Aug 23) '23 Tesla Model Y Perf
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