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      05-23-2021, 11:03 AM   #5259
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Strip cleaned my AR-15 at the weekend, took about two hours and ready for the firing range today.
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      05-25-2021, 08:13 AM   #5263
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Strip cleaned my AR-15 at the weekend, took about two hours and ready for the firing range today.
I've been putting off going to the range because - I have a brand new BMW and the range has an unpaved parking lot and my car gets all dusty.

I know pretty lame. Eff it. I'm going today. It's gonna be a beautiful day.
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I've been putting off going to the range because - I have a brand new BMW and the range has an unpaved parking lot and my car gets all dusty.

I know pretty lame. Eff it. I'm going today. It's gonna be a beautiful day.
Try and avoid the worst bits
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      05-25-2021, 11:00 AM   #5265
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Strip cleaned my AR-15 at the weekend, took about two hours and ready for the firing range today.
That's the part I hate most - cleaning an AR is so long and convoluted (and the direct impingement gets so dirty so fast).

Spoiled by AK's and bolt actions...
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That's the part I hate most - cleaning an AR is so long and convoluted (and the direct impingement gets so dirty so fast).

Spoiled by AK's and bolt actions...
It's not that easy and a bit drawn out but the gun powder residue has to be cleaned off, liberal cleaning with hot water and gun oil application gives me a good feel when done.
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That's the part I hate most - cleaning an AR is so long and convoluted (and the direct impingement gets so dirty so fast).

Spoiled by AK's and bolt actions...
Don't clean it. Just lube it. You'll be fine.
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Strip cleaned my AR-15 at the weekend, took about two hours and ready for the firing range today.
That's the part I hate most - cleaning an AR is so long and convoluted (and the direct impingement gets so dirty so fast).

Spoiled by AK's and bolt actions...
Direct impingement dirty?

Ever shoot a DI gun suppressed??

Oof
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Don't clean it. Just lube it. You'll be fine.
Hah this. When I shoot suppressed I just spray it every 60 rounds or so.
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Direct impingement dirty?

Ever shoot a DI gun suppressed??

Oof
Straight blowback on this for the next round.
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Hot water? I've only read of that as a thing to do if you use corrosive ammo (which I avoid)

Only shot a bolt action suppressed a couple of times. That was fun - but no personal 'whisper pickles' yet, so I have no idea.

AR cleaning is something I'm very careful about (and hate) - maybe it's time to build a gas piston AR, preferably with a lug
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Hot water? I've only read of that as a thing to do if you use corrosive ammo (which I avoid)

Only shot a bolt action suppressed a couple of times. That was fun - but no personal 'whisper pickles' yet, so I have no idea.

AR cleaning is something I'm very careful about (and hate) - maybe it's time to build a gas piston AR, preferably with a lug
If you go to #5194 you'll see what ammo I use.
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That's the part I hate most - cleaning an AR is so long and convoluted (and the direct impingement gets so dirty so fast).

Spoiled by AK's and bolt actions...
If you think an AR is a pain don't even think about cleaning an MP5 that has had a few hundred rounds through it suppressed.
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AR cleaning is something I'm very careful about (and hate) - maybe it's time to build a gas piston AR, preferably with a lug
Then don't. Seriously. You don't need to clean your rifle that much.

If you like to have a clean rifle, then knock your socks off, otherwise just lube it and go.
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I should explain: it was my first time cleaning an AR - and I was just surprised at how much there was to clean and how dirty it had gotten, compared to the Kalash.

(Only reason I want something with a lug is for a bayonet)

I had no idea of how dirty an MP5 gets.
I am in the market for an SP5 (I'd prefer an actual for-real MP5, but I don't want to drop 20 grand - that's a lot of hookers and blow)
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      05-25-2021, 09:25 PM   #5276
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Just looked at your post to see the ammo - just seems like regular 22 LR?
Is it corrosive?

The only corrosive ammo I know of is Eastern European surplus - using a corrosive primer.
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      05-25-2021, 10:16 PM   #5277
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I should explain: it was my first time cleaning an AR - and I was just surprised at how much there was to clean and how dirty it had gotten, compared to the Kalash.

(Only reason I want something with a lug is for a bayonet)

I had no idea of how dirty an MP5 gets.
I am in the market for an SP5 (I'd prefer an actual for-real MP5, but I don't want to drop 20 grand - that's a lot of hookers and blow)
A real MP5 - as in fully automatic NFA registered - is closer to $35-40K.

Honestly the semi versions do nothing for me. Might as well get a 9mm AR for lots less that works as well or better.

But to each their own.
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Just looked at your post to see the ammo - just seems like regular 22 LR?
Is it corrosive?

The only corrosive ammo I know of is Eastern European surplus - using a corrosive primer.
Yup these are the best rounds for my ArmaLite, made in USA.
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AR cleaning? You don't need to clean the gas tube every time you shoot. It's okay to leave the chamber/barrel a little dirty, but your right it does get much more dirtier than a piston or AK. I use to clean it more regularly, but I don't nowadays, and my AR still works as it get dirty. Note that I do run my AR's suppressed which gets dirtier faster. I remember having a rep out on the training range and he fired about 1300 rounds suppressed across 3 days before seizing up. There was no cleaning or lubing during the test, they allowed it to get dirty. It was filthy, but it ran a pretty long time. They added lube during the time of seizing.. and it ran a little but then seized up again. It was just a sludge.

My MP5 I think my cocking tube is getting dirty. That's the only part that is a pain to clean.

Note I legally run FA on both AR and MP5.
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