[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by tranquility

I don't get it?

Car enthusiast card removed

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

If Alfa brought over a 6MT Giulia QV to the sates (and it was somewhat reliable and had a nicer interior) - There's a good chance I'd have had that on order as opposed to the G80 - bucket list be damned in that case. That's how good the Giulia is.

I simply needed a 2+2 and the 4C doesn't offer that, plus 4 cylinder.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I simply needed a 2+2 and the 4C doesn't offer that, plus 4 cylinder.

Something like this?

[Alfisti]

Need a drop top.

[hubbahubba]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Something like this?

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That is gorgeous.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

911

Originally Posted by tranquility

I don't get it?

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Car enthusiast card removed

I swear it was a whooooosh moment, was thinking "what the heck does a 911 call have to due w this...?" but you're actually referring to a car w the engine in the wrong area

Originally Posted by Alfisti

You know what's weird, as much as I wanted one and I enjoy having one my heart is still with Alfa Romeo.

To answer the question, yeah not much anymore, just the kids basically.

So, not the wife huh? Just the kids and the P-car, gotcha.

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I simply needed a 2+2 and the 4C doesn't offer that, plus 4 cylinder.

Ya, the 4C came a few years too late, gorgeous, gorgeous, DCT, compact like crazy, pretty much ideal for me, but can you imagine that as my only car? LOL. It seems pretty reliable too, just that annoying bolt-tightening service every 5 years or so. Then again, I'd constantly be worrying about some garage monkey ruining the carbon tub cuz they jacked it up in the wrong area. Definitely must be at least a 2nd car.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by tranquility

I swear it was a whooooosh moment, was thinking "what the heck does a 911 call have to due w this...?" but you're actually referring to a car w the engine in the wrong area




So, not the wife huh? Just the kids and the P-car, gotcha.




Ya, the 4C came a few years too late, gorgeous, gorgeous, DCT, compact like crazy, pretty much ideal for me, but can you imagine that as my only car? LOL. It seems pretty reliable too, just that annoying bolt-tightening service every 5 years or so. Then again, I'd constantly be worrying about some garage monkey ruining the carbon tub cuz they jacked it up in the wrong area. Definitely must be at least a 2nd car.

I'll forgive you.. momentary brain fart. Enthusiast card reinstated.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I'll forgive you.. momentary brain fart. Enthusiast card reinstated.

TY, you are so forgiving.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by tranquility

A) So, not the wife huh? Just the kids and the P-car, gotcha.

B) Definitely must be at least a 2nd car.

A) Bang on

B) Even as a second car, i have two boys, I can't be driving off with one and not the other, they regularly join me for a thrash.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

A) Bang on

B) Even as a second car, i have two boys, I can't be driving off with one and not the other, they regularly join me for a thrash.

A) May I ask how come? (Obviously, I already asked, you don't have to answer.) It's sad when love diminishes. We're all human, after all.

B) Ya, I get that, that's probably a main factor for ppl who get 911s, it's a more 'practical' sportscar.

[2008M36MT]

Iggy Azalea is hot.

[CamasM3e93]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

the hell?

Oh sure. Haven’t you heard that before? Why does a dog lick its balls?? Because he can…..

[wtwo3]

Unpopular Opinion I never knew had to be stated... licking your own asshole (or any asshole for that matter) is disgusting.

[JMcLellan]

Large companies (cant speak for smaller shops, my last 15 years has been with large companies) forcing workers to be in the office for roles that can be successfully done remotely are doing it wrong and have a lack of trust in their management and employees. Yes, there are some jobs that have to be done in the office (manufacturing assembly, on-site security, doctors, nurses, etc). and there are times where being in person to do workshopping, strategy planning, team building and things like that that cannot be done well remotely so there is a time and place for it. I have had some in-person sessions where I walked away thinking "holy crap, doing that in the office was amazing!" but there are days where I go into the office and sit on Zoom calls at my desk which is pointless and should have stayed home.

Companies should not say we are going to be in the office for connection and collaboration. Just say what they are really thinking: we have to justify the cost of the building we rent so people should be there, plus executives equate seeing people in the office as productive while not seeing people makes them think lack of productivity. Finally, pre-covid tons of people were in every day and no one really cared so lets get back to that, right?

[tcphoto]

This will likely be an unpopular opinion, personal responsibility and accountability. There seems to be a sense of entitlement, few people want to earn what they get and the world owes them something. Ever work hard whether it's at work, in your yard or car project and when you've finished look back and take pride in the results?

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by tcphoto

This will likely be an unpopular opinion, personal responsibility and accountability. There seems to be a sense of entitlement, few people want to earn what they get and the world owes them something. Ever work hard whether it's at work, in your yard or car project and when you've finished look back and take pride in the results?

Agreed. This is a very polarizing topic. My perspective comes from my reality working for a huge company and seeing how they are trying to manage this. We have a bad quarter and in our employee town hall the CEO starts barking about people getting back into the office.

What frustrates me is that being productive, responsible, and accountable isn't the same thing as being in the office.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by tcphoto

This will likely be an unpopular opinion, personal responsibility and accountability. There seems to be a sense of entitlement, few people want to earn what they get and the world owes them something. Ever work hard whether it's at work, in your yard or car project and when you've finished look back and take pride in the results?

We already worked from home 2 days per week, pre-COVID. Been full-time WFH since the OKC Thunder game that was canceled and then everything went crazy the next. They even closed our OKC at the end of 2021.

Our Senior VP has actually told us multiple times in all hands we have been more productive WFH and we need to take more time for ourselves.

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

Agreed. This is a very polarizing topic. My perspective comes from my reality working for a huge company and seeing how they are trying to manage this. We have a bad quarter and in our employee town hall the CEO starts barking about people getting back into the office.

What frustrates me is that being productive, responsible, and accountable isn't the same thing as being in the office.

I also work for a large company, underneath an even larger company. Currently in our quarterly All Hands, we hired 2,000 new employees in the last 6 months.

As to your last sentence, you're falling into the trap of thinking your experience is everyone's experience. We are so productive WFH, Ellison told us in 2020 that regardless what happens with COVID in the future we can WFH permanently and in 2021 they closed the OKC office because everyone said they'd rather work from home.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

We already worked from home 2 days per week, pre-COVID. Been full-time WFH since the OKC Thunder game that was canceled and then everything went crazy the next. They even closed our OKC at the end of 2021.

Our Senior VP has actually told us multiple times in all hands we have been more productive WFH and we need to take more time for ourselves.



I also work for a large company, underneath an even larger company. Currently in our quarterly All Hands, we hired 2,000 new employees in the last 6 months.

As to your last sentence, you're falling into the trap of thinking your experience is everyone's experience. We are so productive WFH, Ellison told us in 2020 that regardless what happens with COVID in the future we can WFH permanently and in 2021 they closed the OKC office because everyone said they'd rather work from home.

Man, you called me out again for the "your experience is not everyone's experience". Last week was CostCo....

I was trying to quality my opinion by saying this is my experience based on working for the large company I work for, not trying to speak for others. Thanks for keeping me honest though and sounds like you have a senior VP that gets it.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

Man, you called me out again for the "your experience is not everyone's experience". Last week was CostCo....

I was trying to quality my opinion by saying this is my experience based on working for the large company I work for, not trying to speak for others. Thanks for keeping me honest though and sounds like you have a senior VP that gets it.

Haha no worries, just like I know my experience isn't the same people have working for big tech companies (which is VERY different than working for big manufacturing or defense contractors that I worked for in the past.)

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Haha no worries, just like I know my experience isn't the same people have working for big tech companies (which is VERY different than working for big manufacturing or defense contractors that I worked for in the past.)

Is the company performing well overall? I do believe that helps with allowing more autonomy across how teams/employees are managed.

Our current reality is that we can no longer blame Covid or supply-chain issues for our revenue shortfalls. Meanwhile our competitors are growing and grabbing our market share and have shown strong recovery post-covid. The majority of these shortfalls are due to strategic decisions made prior to covid that we are paying for now; has nothing to do with employees not being in the office and our CEO is tone-deaf on the topic.

[2008M36MT]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Haha no worries, just like I know my experience isn't the same people have working for big tech companies (which is VERY different than working for big manufacturing or defense contractors that I worked for in the past.)

I also work for a large global corporation under another even larger multinational corporation, in the defense industry. Naturally, the folks in operations worked right through COVID, but the SBU VPs have relative autonomy, so at site A, some have pushed for return to the office, at site B, they don't give two hoots. Overall though corporate has been supportive of WFH, not really making any efficiency/inefficiency arguments, just generally noting that we have been successful as a whole through COVID. Profits are good, bonuses are being paid. However, I have noticed a significant decrease of WFH jobs on the career site, most are now hybrid or on-site, even for the corporate/business support functions.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

Is the company performing well overall? I do believe that helps with allowing more autonomy across how teams/employees are managed.

Our current reality is that we can no longer blame Covid or supply-chain issues for our revenue shortfalls. Meanwhile our competitors are growing and grabbing our market share and have shown strong recovery post-covid. The majority of these shortfalls are due to strategic decisions made prior to covid that we are paying for now; has nothing to do with employees not being in the office and our CEO is tone-deaf on the topic.

I would say so, we keep adding "labels," ie new customers. And we hired 2,000 people in the last 6 months although it sounds like now that is going to be dramatically slowed or a hiring freeze likely for the rest of the fiscal year, July 1st. Revenue and profits continued to grow through COVID with more people doing shopping online and such.

I think this puts us around 13-14k employees?

With the owning company around 170k between all the different GBU's.