[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by spiceyxi

Interesting about the quoted HP as motortrend had the Z4 M40i at 382hp/369. Similar price at ~65k and 3,400lb weight.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-...2EA8ED6D1B811F

From what I've seen/read the 335hp is for the euro version since it has that particulate or whatever filter setup in the exhaust. Pretty sure one of our people on here with inside info said US version will have more hp, somewhere around 380hp.

[supra93]

OP just updated his post:

I want to just reiterate, this information is not from a vetted source and not from myself or any of our forum insiders. I do not know if this some sort of misinformation strategy or even an elaborate trolling, but the background checked out and so here is the info presented as it was given to me.

[IllSic_Design]

From reading the supraforum thread it seems as if Tada knew what might happen all along, Toyots US would throw a bunch of extra misc crap on the car so it has all these fancy gadgets and killed the weight. Also how are they going to price it higher than the new M2 C? They are crazy

As people on the supra forum are saying, it's like a newer, bigger, slightly more powerful 86, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. SMH

[NickyC]

$65k for those numbers?!?

I need to stop checking this thread, my heart just can't take the beating anymore.

[supra93]

^"$63.5K"

But someone pointed this out on another forum.

This part doesn't make sense to me. The Supra is 219-362 lbs less than the M20i, but it's suppose to be slower?

[supra93]

Things are still subject to change, but the latest from A70TTR is that both Asian and European markets will receive a 4 cylinder model. The US will only have the straight six.

[Ristau]

As much as I want the new supra to be awesome, I saw something earlier today (a potential leak) that the Supra is gonna start at around 65k, with a B58.

M2 Competition for me (not that I can afford one anyway haha)

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

From reading the supraforum thread it seems as if Tada knew what might happen all along, Toyots US would throw a bunch of extra misc crap on the car so it has all these fancy gadgets and killed the weight. Also how are they going to price it higher than the new M2 C? They are crazy

As people on the supra forum are saying, it's like a newer, bigger, slightly more powerful 86, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. SMH

Yup, supposedly the test mule running around is 3050lbs. Toyota US has come in late and requested all those standard options. Basically turning it into a heavier high end model and not a back to basics sports car.

[Ickdeep]

Toyota Supra Allegedly Costs $63.5K, Hits 60 MPH In 4.5 Seconds


https://www.motor1.com/news/244209/t...-specs-rumors/

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by Ickdeep

Toyota Supra Allegedly Costs $63.5K, Hits 60 MPH In 4.5 Seconds


https://www.motor1.com/news/244209/t...-specs-rumors/

All these site's info come from the 2 members on the supra forums linked a page or so back. They have almost confirmed the price and weight(both very close according to them) to be what is said, 63K and 3300lbs or so.

[supra93]

[supra93]

Love it or hate it, Guff's source says these are the closest rendering to the real car. There are only very minor differences, and the real thing will look even better in real life.

[ShocknAwe]

Really like it. But if Toyota US kills it with stupid electronics and "upgrades" that can't be specced out, it'll be a very pretty, yet pointless car owned primarily by wife swappers and website networkers.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by supra93

Love it or hate it, Guff's source says these are the closest rendering to the real car. There are only very minor differences, and the real thing will look even better in real life.

Looks good to me.

[supra93]

This was posted over at MKV. I thought it was interesting. If true, it sounds like the top trim could be a hybrid.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/new...a.1306/page-39

Originally Posted by Medrivfast

Hello, This is my first post. My neighbor works for BMW and brings home different cars before production wrapped. The other day I saw what looked like the new Supra on his driveway. A couple of days later I saw him and asked him about it. He confirmed it's the Supra. He also told me that it's also the new Z4. He said both cars are almost identical. The Supra on the driveway still had BMW badges under the hood. The Z4 will only be a convertible compared to the Supra being a coupe. He said he prefers to drive the Supra. It's a small car but very stiff chassis. Because of that he wouldn't recommend it as a daily driver. But, it handles great in the canyons.
The Z4 and Supra are the same with 3 different variances of engine's. From low hp to high hp they are
Forgot the size of the engine .
But, low hp is single turbo
Mid level is 3.0L Twin Turbo
High level is 3.0L Twin Turbo with Electronic Assistance (Approx 400hp)
Whether you believe me or not. I don't care. I'm not in the market to buy the Supra. I have a C7 Z06 already.

But, it does sound like a fun car to drive

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by supra93

This was posted over at MKV. I thought it was interesting. If true, it sounds like the top trim could be a hybrid.

I love it when my intel -- from TMC NA HQ, no less -- is confirmed.

(Unfortunately, the posts about TMC NA wanting to stuff even the base Supra full of luxury equipment as standard is also one of the things I've heard recently.)

[FrostyDC4]

Is the new Supra/Z4 going to be using McPherson struts up front?

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by supra93

If true, it sounds like the top trim could be a hybrid.

[supra93]

The future may be full of self-driving EVs and, inevitably, more SUVs, but the sports car is alive and kicking. That’s the message from Tetsuya Tada, chief engineer for the brilliant Toyota GT86 and forthcoming Supra – due in 2019.

We caught up with Tada-San at Le Mans, our conversation frequently punctuated by the wail of Toyota’s TS050 Hybrids blasting through Arnage. Here’s what he had to say about the new Supra, Gazoo Racing and why technology is the car enthusiast’s friend.

The new Supra will be a “pure sports car”
The Supra and new BMW Z4 will share a straight-six engine and gearbox, but they aren’t near-identical twins like the GT86 and Subaru BRZ. “Each company defined what we wanted and went from there,” explains Tada. “Both cars have completely different suspension and software calibration, for example.”

Tada insists the Supra “will be a pure sports car – practicality and comfort were almost not considered.” Its styling is partly shaped by the demands of GTE racing regulations, but it will still “look sexy”. The voluptuous rear wings of the GR Racing Supra Concept, revealed at Geneva 2018, are here to stay.

A hot Supra GRMN is coming, too
Following the critically-acclaimed Yaris GRMN hot hatch, will we see a hotter, GRMN-badged version of the Supra? Certainly not at launch, it seems, but Tada doesn’t deny the car is in development.

“I would like to see something like that eventually,” he smiles. “We are preparing for it”.

Gazoo Racing has big plans
Toyota’s sporty Gazoo Racing sub-brand was everywhere at Le Mans, and will soon be far more familiar on the road. As well as full-fat GRMN models, we’ll see GR and GR Sport versions of existing cars. These will major on racy styling rather than outright performance, in the mould of BMW M Sport or Mercedes-Benz AMG Line.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, a roadgoing version of the GR Super Sport hypercar concept is in the pipeline, too. “It’s very difficult to make a viable business case for sports cars,” says Tada, “but our young engineers are reaping the benefits of working in Gazoo Racing – and with BMW.”

Technology offers a different kind of driving fun
Many drivers see technology as the enemy when it comes to driving engagement and fun. However, Tada is remarkably upbeat about the role tech can play in future sports cars. “Spearheaded by the Supra, we’ve been working with app developers to use driving data and artificial intelligence in simulations,” he reveals. “It’s one way of getting more people interested in cars and motorsport.”

“You could be driving your Supra on-track, but racing against a virtual Fernando Alonso in real-time.” Sounds like an ego-bruising experience to us, albeit a very clever one…

The Celica and MR2 could make a comeback
The Supra isn’t the only famous Toyota nameplate that could make a comeback. Tada grins when quizzed about a possible return for the Celica and MR2: “I’m often asked that, and we get many requests.

“We’re committed to sports cars and Gazoo Racing means we have more resources for developing them. We’ll investigate what cars to introduce in-future, but this company set-up shows where we want to go.”

When Tada retires, he’ll drive off into the sunset in a Supra
You’d expect a man like Tetsuya Tada to have something special tucked in his garage. In reality, he says, “we only have my wife’s car at home. That’s because I’m always driving test cars, and simply don’t have time for more driving at weekends.”

When Tada retires, however, he’ll do so in his new Supra. “I’ll customise it to exactly how I like it and just enjoy driving it.”

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...ta-sports-car/

[Red Bread]

Oops. Guess I can't make fun of Toyota's record at LeMans anymore. Maybe their next collaboration will actually be cool.

[Never_Enough]

Car isn't even out yet & I'm sick of it

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Car isn't even out yet & I'm sick of it

Right..... and the same regurgitated interviews and blah blah blah