[LuisBoston]

I just want an i5 touring. Maybe this is the first step. That would be a great replacement for my iX when the lease is up in 3 years.

I can hope.

[agentrnge]

I think America is getting this because its already SUV size and weight. No thanks. We want the G20/G80 touring!

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by Ev0lutionx

Old news. Tell them we want the M3 wagon.

+1

We also want the 540xi/540i wagon

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Kia got you covered.

Ain’t much difference if you are not buying an M car. Or maybe it will look like a K car in half a decade.

[ASAP]

for anyone that hasnt figured it out yet... this is a shorter bmw xm lol

[BMWCompact]

Originally Posted by KHATTI

Here you go….

Why do you not like your RS6?

[jdubm2c]

Coming to "U.S. America".

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by jdubm2c

Coming to "U.S. America".

Borat wrote this article

[Msparta]

M has gone down the rabbit hole … not in a bad way but the pattern is prob the opposite of what one would expect:

XM
Station wagon m5

What’s next?

[KHATTI]

Originally Posted by BMWCompact

Why do you not like your RS6?

It’s highly problematic. The 48v generator will fail at some point. Audi refuses to make it a service bulletin. When it goes you’ll receive a Christmas tree of faults and the car will just shut down. I have 11K on it. Will likely happen between now and 25K miles. Due to this I can’t take the car on long distance trips. Also, it usually takes weeks to fix. Google it if you’re bored.

Other than that it’s probably the most favorite car of mine I’ve ever owned. Truly unique. 👍🏾

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by M2siast

That’s because you gave him a bs reply, as if weight played a part in stopping…

The lightest cars don’t stop sooner, and the heaviest cars don’t stop later.

But the heaviest cars can stop sooner. And can be quicker. So, he’s right, who cares… only those who can feel the weight difference in spirited driving. Which isn’t the majority of people. Most will enjoy as we’ve been enjoying heavy cars forever now.

Ive been buying cars through him for the last 20+ years. He got the joke. There just isn’t a sarcasm font for the internet.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Ex_Stig

I was talking to my sales guy about this today. I mentioned my concern for the weight and he said, if it goes 0-60 in under 3 seconds who cares what it weighs.

He wasn’t thrilled with my reply saying that I don’t care how fast it is, with all that weight I want it to be able to stop. Lol

I had this realization years ago...BMW salespeople don't care for the opinions of enthusiasts. Most haven't even worked at the company more than a handful of years. Their objective is to sell you a car here and now.

They are not enthusiasts. Occasionally you run into the old timer who's been there 30 years and is, but generally no.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by Mavus

Borat wrote this article

High five!

[6SPDG82]

Originally Posted by M2siast

That’s because you gave him a bs reply, as if weight played a part in stopping…

The lightest cars don’t stop sooner, and the heaviest cars don’t stop later.

But the heaviest cars can stop sooner. And can be quicker. So, he’s right, who cares… only those who can feel the weight difference in spirited driving. Which isn’t the majority of people. Most will enjoy as we’ve been enjoying heavy cars forever now.

You put the same brakes and tires on a lighter car it’ll stop in a shorter distance than the heavier car. What are you talking about?

[M2Cmtl]

How about Canada?

[6SPDG82]

Originally Posted by M2siast

So the M5 has the brakes of a 520? That’s news to me.

But I’d take your guess and say that it’s probably because the 520 brakes were oversized as normal, and able to lock up the wheels on the M5 as well, making it a non issue

I’m talking about physics and about 35 years lapping cars.

[6SPDG82]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Ah gotcha. We’re definitely talking past each other then, because I’m talking about weight not mattering to a car stopping in a shorter or longer distance, not how old I am. They’re not related, as the fact a car’s weight doesn’t matter to how well it brakes cares none about my age.

Cheers

Last post from me on this…

Take your M2, mark a point on the road, hit the brakes exactly at that point and stop from 60mph. Mark where the car stopped.

Throw in three of your 200pd buddies (and toss one in the trunk if you like) and repeat the test.

You will take longer to stop.

Hopefully this is in terms you can understand.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

How about Canada?

Yeah Trudeau will love to luxury tax this one too only to have it stolen from your driveway the night you bring it home.

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Let’s go!

[M3WC]

This thing quite possible could weigh as much as an Escalade(5,635lbs).

G90 weighs 2435 or 5,357lbs. The G81 Touring added 85kg over the G80.

Using a conservtive 100kg added to M5, could be looking at 5,577lbs for M5 Touring. 58lbs from being an Escalade 6.2L.

[cbertels]

Originally Posted by vbb

I feel like either probably will be. The current M5 Comp is what, $110k USD and the X5M Comp is $115k? This will be more than both of those.
Should be able to get a great deal on a low mileage one that's about 2 years old though.

If the prices track what the RS6 has done, I would be surprised if it’s not heavily marked up for a while.

[TouringM3]

Glad i put my name down with BMW for this when the rumor mill started a year ago.

The AWD M5 Touring will be a perfect stablemate for my F81!