[Saphirschwarz]

FWD piece of sh*t

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by Edinburra

A Mini in a sharp suit.

Unfortunately, that is exactly what it is.

[mkoesel]

If you want a sub-3 four-door passenger car with a BMW badge, remain optimistic.

Perhaps the most compelling theory to explain why this car is not being released over here simultaneously with the debut in China is that BMW has other plans for this segment in the US. Those plans could be a 2 Series Gran Coupe sharing a RWD platform with the next generation 2 Series Coupe and Convertible. Of course, this is all still very speculative, but there are rumors to this effect, including some support from SCOTT. Nothing has shown up on the future vehicle roadmap yet, but it's still early (current 2 Series won't even reach midlife until next year's LCI). So the downside is, if it is coming, there's still going to be a bit of a wait.

[ralawren]

I am not interested in a FWD car but that doesn't mean BMW can't build one that is fun to drive. The Mini Cooper, VW GTI and Honda Prelude all come to mind. I also had an 86 CRX that was wonderful for Auto-X. Basically get the nose past the apex and floor it....

So, to each his own, but don't assume a FWD car will not be rewarding to drive if the engineers do their job.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

So basically it's a BMW Audi A3...

No, it's a BMW Mercedes CLA duh.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

If you want a sub-3 four-door passenger car with a BMW badge, remain optimistic.

Perhaps the most compelling theory to explain why this car is not being released over here simultaneously with the debut in China is that BMW has other plans for this segment in the US. Those plans could be a 2 Series Gran Coupe sharing a RWD platform with the next generation 2 Series Coupe and Convertible. Of course, this is all still very speculative, but there are rumors to this effect, including some support from SCOTT. Nothing has shown up on the future vehicle roadmap yet, but it's still early (current 2 Series won't even reach midlife until next year's LCI). So the downside is, if it is coming, there's still going to be a bit of a wait.

Indeed

I see no reason why a RWD 2er coupe/gran coupe can't co exist with a cheaper entry level FWD 1er saloon (sedan).

3er and 4 GC co exist and they are both RWD.

Having said that if the next 2er also goes FWD then someone on the board really should see a doctor.

[The Choosey begger]

Someone has already rendered the ///M version.

[inTgr8r]

PLEASE, NO M!!!

I think a base model 1er sedan would do huge business in N.Amer if costs were kept reasonable.
But please keep it what it is, an everyday car with more room because of the fwd packaging.

[sakson]

This will look good with M-sport package.

[JoeyBananaz18]

Originally Posted by anglo

Someone has already rendered the ///M version.

There is so much that can go right with this car, but something tells me that based on the recent years at BMW, there is going to be more wrong with it. This could end up being the e46 M3 sedan they missed out on, but they will probably let history repeat itself. The thing that I just cant understand is that with all the incredible reviews the M2 is getting, for them to refuse to give us a sedan version would be an abomination. I can't imagine them not giving a shit about enthusiasts any less than that.

I've switched over the e46fanatics and am doing my homework on how to build a proper e46 M sedan. BMW, this is your opportunity to either get my money, or lose me to an S3 sedan or secondhand market.

[pz619]

Looks fine enough, but leave that mutant FWD BMW in China.

This car is terrorizing my ability to buy a small, fun, and RWD sedan. I'm writing my elected officials to add this vehicle to the US No Fly list.

[AKRAPOVICOWNS]

Weird that it has the hood line above the BMW logo, while the concept didn't, and next gen 5er and 3er doesn't have it aswell..I thought that the newer ones would loose that.

And also I can't understand why FWD cars like this, X1, minis etc, have that ugly gear lever instead of the usual one.

[keanu1]

Nice Hyundai elantra!)

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

PLEASE, NO M!!!

I think a base model 1er sedan would do huge business in N.Amer if costs were kept reasonable.
But please keep it what it is, an everyday car with more room because of the fwd packaging.

Why not? Having a 300 HP turbo 4 with AWD wouldn't be so bad. No different from an S3 or CLA45 AMG.

[doccyber]

Cool little car.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by Jason

Compare this to the Concept Compact Sedan, upon which the production BMW 1 Series sedan is based.



[/bpnews]

Um, I compared them. And the concept looks sweet while this "production" model looks derpy.










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[Falafel Combo]

FWD + Fugly = $$$$$ALES!

[brianeck]

BMW should just do away with their number system for car names at this point since it clearly follows no rules whatsoever.

I can't wait for the BMW 135xdrive Grand Touring Coupe M Sport Diesel 30 Jahre Edition personally.

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by IB M

This has to be the one.

Nice enough looking but hard to imagine FWD.

I hope BMW makes money in China instead of just giving away all of their manufacturing technology.

China is THE major perpetrator of intellectual property theft against the West, amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars per year. Unfortunately, many iconic Western companies have chosen to offshore their production to China in order to achieve short-term labor savings (and skirt environmental laws) at the long-term expense of their intellectual property, product quality and the global environment.

Regarding the global environment, it’s tragically ironic that BMW AG contributes to China’s widespread environmental and health problems while peddling its “EfficientDynamics” marketing campaign to clueless Westerners who believe they’re saving the planet by driving “greener” cars. Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of Chinese citizens living in industrialized cities half way around the world routinely breathe in heavy hazes of smog on a daily basis.

Does anyone else find it all extremely hypocritical of so-called “green” Westerners who demand cheap (usually inferior) Chinese products from a country that has virtually no environmental regulations, human rights (or intellectual property rights)?

On a side note, I’m pleased to announce that this is my 1,000th post…

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Why not? Having a 300 HP turbo 4 with AWD wouldn't be so bad. No different from an S3 or CLA45 AMG.

Was referring to fwd

[JRobUSC]

Originally Posted by JoeyBananaz18

There is so much that can go right with this car, but something tells me that based on the recent years at BMW, there is going to be more wrong with it. This could end up being the e46 M3 sedan they missed out on, but they will probably let history repeat itself. The thing that I just cant understand is that with all the incredible reviews the M2 is getting, for them to refuse to give us a sedan version would be an abomination. I can't imagine them not giving a shit about enthusiasts any less than that.

I've switched over the e46fanatics and am doing my homework on how to build a proper e46 M sedan. BMW, this is your opportunity to either get my money, or lose me to an S3 sedan or secondhand market.

I never understand when people say things like that. "If you don't make your thing the way I want you to make it, which is different than the way everything else in the segment is, then I'm going to go buy this other thing that also isn't the way I want it and in fact is exactly what I'm mad about your thing." It makes no sense. The S3 is a transverse engine, FWD-based car too, so if Audi can make the A3 and S3 handle well there's no reason BMW couldn't do the same thing with a 1-Series sedan. And from what we've read, it'll be roomier than the A3/S3, as well, and look like it's proportioned properly and not like a weird, snub nosed, truncated A4. So I don't see the problem. In fact the ONLY problem I see is BMW isn't planning on bringing the car here. And that is simply mind boggling. Audi and Mercedes sell 2000-3000 A3's and CLA's a month in the U.S., and BMW has no answer. If BMW took 1000 from each of them they'd be #1 in sales right now.

[colin_e90]

Honestly wish they would bring the active tourer to the states. There is a good amount on the roads in Europe and it's honestly a pretty practical and much more attractive car then what it competes with. The m packaged ones look pretty neat. Totally feel that it would succeed in the states. Would love to rent one sometime next time I'm back in Europe to get a true honest opinion on the driving feel.