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      06-05-2024, 08:08 AM   #45
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Verstappen doesn't seem like the kind that needs to be challenged.
IMO, maybe a little more complicated than that. When Max is challenged by the chassis or mechanical problems his passion is easy to see. Some drivers you need internal competition to get the most out of them. Lando and Oscar Piastri for example. That internal competition can easy turn ugly as in Senna and Prost, Hamilton and Rosberg. Max, to me, shows no sign of needing to be pushed to achieve his best results. I think Fernando Alonso has the same temperament. When you have drivers like that you are well advised not to toss a second alpha dog into the fight.

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Ferrari don’t seem to care. SAI is the perfect teammate being just a hair slower than Charlie IMHO. HAM can cause nothing but trouble 👿
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      06-05-2024, 10:08 AM   #47
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Before the race if anyone wants to see LH take on the Hot Sauce take a look. Wonder if any other F1 drivers are going to join in??

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I think Max and the RB return to form here.

Expecting to see the biggest leap in performance for McLaren compared to last year.
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I think Max and the RB return to form here.

Expecting to see the biggest leap in performance for McLaren compared to last year.
Agree Monte Carlo is a one off people are making too big a deal of.

Business as usual, nothing to see here.
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Honestly does any one buy that any driver doesn't care about who their team mate is. Did Senna look forward to Prost as a team mate? Would Vettel pick Mark Webber as a team mate? Let's not forget Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg. Damn right Max Verstappen cares and so rightly so. The Red Bull management care too. Consistency, harmony and results are hard to argue with.
people forgot in 2007 Alonso the World Champion was hired to partner Lewis Hamilton in his first ever season in F1

there were crazy infighting and resulted in both Alonso and Hamilton completely level on points and both lost the championship by 1 point. (Hamilton was awarded second place on countback)

as a result the Alonso left the team
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      06-05-2024, 02:36 PM   #51
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Well , I don't think so my friend . As you can see
He's out there running his own race, as he should

So many people seem to forget all the times Checo helped Max too... 2021 Abu Dhabi against Hamilton anyone? "Checo is a legend" "Absolute animal".
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"Checo is a legend" "Absolute animal".


C'Mon Man, "Animal" / "Legend"? That's laughable

A few years after retirement he won't even be memorable
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He's out there running his own race, as he should

So many people seem to forget all the times Checo helped Max too... 2021 Abu Dhabi against Hamilton anyone? "Checo is a legend" "Absolute animal".
I agree that Checo ran a great race to help MAX in Abu Dhabi 2021 .
That was in 'one race and actually It's Checo's job as the #2 driver at Red Bull ...

My question for you is :
Where was/is Checo in 2022 ? 2023 ? 2024 ?
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I agree that Checo ran a great race to help MAX in Abu Dhabi 2021 .
That was in 'one race and actually It's Checo's job as the #2 driver at Red Bull ...

My question for you is :
Where was/is Checo in 2022 ? 2023 ? 2024 ?
'Nough said!!!

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Think from previous comments there are no RBR fans here...otherwise there wouldn't be people questioning what Perez did in '23...either that or they have no memory.

In 2023 Sergio Perez finished second in the World Drivers Championship, giving Red Bull Racing their very first ever 1, 2 finish....they've been in F1 since 2005.
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Think from previous comments there are no RBR fans here...otherwise there wouldn't be people questioning what Perez did in '23...either that or they have no memory.

In 2023 Sergio Perez finished second in the World Drivers Championship, giving Red Bull Racing their very first ever 1, 2 finish....they've been in F1 since 2005.
But Ferrari went backwards & everybody else SUCKED

I can't even remember who was second '23 was so irrelevant.

Isn't that the year Max would have won both championships without a teammate
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But Ferrari went backwards & everybody else SUCKED

I can't even remember who was second '23 was so irrelevant.

Isn't that the year Max would have won both championships without a teammate
Yes , because MAX won 19 races in 2023 .

The LEW fans and amnesia....

LEW was in the running for P2 in the 2023 WDC .
But LEW got a DNF in Qatar and LEW was DQ (disqualified) at COTA with his cheating Merc floor .

Checo was served P2 on a silver platter
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My question for you is :
Where was/is Checo in 2022 ? 2023 ? 2024 ?
from what we know in the news, working hard to pay off Max's salary!
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from what we know in the news, working hard to pay off Max's salary!
Bringing money doesn't = working hard or being a great driver.

Perez is backed by fellow Mexican, billionaire Carlos Slim, who is worth $102.4 billion - and is the eighth-richest person in the world.

Perez is a pay driver like Stroll, Latifi and others.
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My question for you is :
Where was/is Checo in 2022 ? 2023 ? 2024 ?
2022
1 Max Verstappen NED Red Bull Racing RBPT 454
2 Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 308
3 Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull Racing RBPT 305
2023
1 Max Verstappen NED Red Bull RBPT 575
2 Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull RBPT 285
3 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 234
2024
1 Max Verstappen NED Red Bull Racing 169
2 Charles Leclerc MON Ferrari 138
3 Lando Norris GBR McLaren 113
4 Carlos Sainz ESP Ferrari 108
5 Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull Racing 107

What is the issue here?
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Think from previous comments there are no RBR fans here...otherwise there wouldn't be people questioning what Perez did in '23...either that or they have no memory.

In 2023 Sergio Perez finished second in the World Drivers Championship, giving Red Bull Racing their very first ever 1, 2 finish....they've been in F1 since 2005.
The season when Perez was driving the most dominate F1 car in history and managed only 9 podiums.

While his teammate won 19 races in the same machinery.

Even Checo wants to forget about that season.
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Checo -

2020 - 4th in a Racing Point
2021 - 4th in a RB
2022 - 3rd in a RB
2023 - 2nd in a RB

Good thing arm-chair team principal isn't a real job.
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Bringing money doesn't = working hard or being a great driver.

Perez is backed by fellow Mexican, billionaire Carlos Slim, who is worth $102.4 billion - and is the eighth-richest person in the world.

Perez is a pay driver like Stroll, Latifi and others.
Nothing wrong with being a pay driver, Checo is the hero of Mexico with a big money punch behind him and the chance to win a race or two is always present.
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"According to current predictions, rain is a genuine threat on all three days of running at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, meaning drivers could be turning to the intermediate and wet tyres across the weekend."
i'd love to see if they changed anything to the wet compound, last year they couldn't drive on wets
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