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      06-09-2022, 12:04 PM   #639
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This car is highly desired dude. It’ll be many years before the pricing actually catches up to open market.

Meaning unlike the c7z, you will NOT get a c8z at 10-15k off any time, or maybe ever.

I got my 2nd MY z06 for like 18% off msrp. Year end sale.

Let me know when that happens for the c8z lol.

It won’t. This car will pull so much money for at least the next 5 years.
I’m aware of the current demand. That doesn’t mean it will last forever and that supply won’t catch up. I’d bet that dealers will be advertising z06’s under MSRP within 3 years.
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Gee i'd take that bet, MRSP at the lowest.
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      06-09-2022, 12:51 PM   #641
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I’m aware of the current demand. That doesn’t mean it will last forever and that supply won’t catch up. I’d bet that dealers will be advertising z06’s under MSRP within 3 years.
I disagree but I guess it’s good to be optimistic.

If anything we should hope it goes to normal so others get a chance to experience this car. I know I’ll be one of the first so I’m happy lol
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I disagree but I guess it’s good to be optimistic.

If anything we should hope it goes to normal so others get a chance to experience this car. I know I’ll be one of the first so I’m happy lol
Agreed, wake me up when I can order one for 3-6% under invoice like the 392 Wrangler that I ordered, which is also in incredibly high demand. I'd be happy to get a z06 at MSRP but I think dealers will eventually start accepting orders with discounts like they generally do for any cars that aren't numbered limited edition types. It might be a while but I'm not so in love with the z06 that I'd be willing to pay over MSRP for it. Maybe if it looked like a 458 or Emira, but the C8 still looks a bit "odd" to me even with the z06 aero upgrades. It's a hell of an overall package for the money though, no doubt.
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I’m aware of the current demand. That doesn’t mean it will last forever and that supply won’t catch up. I’d bet that dealers will be advertising z06’s under MSRP within 3 years.
Base C8 should be the first to level off. How many C8Z units is GM building a year? Can they crank out those engines like the LT4?
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From what I am seeing and hearing from a few very knowledgeable guys in the industry: GMs, wholesalers, and locators... The C8 continues to be "highly sought after and coveted". With the market and limited availability still, this will continue for the unforseen future.
The Z06 will be even more so.
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      06-09-2022, 02:16 PM   #645
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Base C8 should be the first to level off. How many C8Z units is GM building a year? Can they crank out those engines like the LT4?
As I said even 2020 c8’s are still pulling for 20k over. Used ones are 20k more than new because people can’t wait 12-14 months to get a new one.

Sure it’ll get better but we are SO FAR away from being Normal as in precovid.

The c8z will fetch for so much money people don’t understand. I get it if people don’t like seeing corvette succeed but this will be the most desired corvette generation of all time.

What a time to be a corvette fan lol
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      06-09-2022, 02:17 PM   #646
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From what I am seeing and hearing from a few very knowledgeable guys in the industry: GMs, wholesalers, and locators... The C8 continues to be "highly sought after and coveted". With the market and limited availability still, this will continue for the unforseen future.
The Z06 will be even more so.
2-3 years before things start to normalize.

This LT6 everyone wants lol. This z06 is something special.
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      06-09-2022, 02:18 PM   #647
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Agreed, wake me up when I can order one for 3-6% under invoice like the 392 Wrangler that I ordered, which is also in incredibly high demand. I'd be happy to get a z06 at MSRP but I think dealers will eventually start accepting orders with discounts like they generally do for any cars that aren't numbered limited edition types. It might be a while but I'm not so in love with the z06 that I'd be willing to pay over MSRP for it. Maybe if it looked like a 458 or Emira, but the C8 still looks a bit "odd" to me even with the z06 aero upgrades. It's a hell of an overall package for the money though, no doubt.

You’re comparing a 392 to a c8z in terms of desirability?

They are no where near comparable in terms of what people would pay for this car. People are already agreeing to 100k adm on this car. Of course from wealthy people. No wealthy person is looking to get into a 392 wrangler lol
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      06-09-2022, 03:51 PM   #648
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You’re comparing a 392 to a c8z in terms of desirability?

They are no where near comparable in terms of what people would pay for this car. People are already agreeing to 100k adm on this car. Of course from wealthy people. No wealthy person is looking to get into a 392 wrangler lol
You'd have to be stone cold retarded to pay $100k over for a C8Z, or $50k over, or $30k over. 392's have been selling for $10-40k over MSRP since they came out for cars on the lot. I'm not making a direct car comparison, I'm just saying it's a desirable model with high demand that can still be ordered for a ~10-12% discount without hassle. The C8Z will eventually fall into the same hole, though it may take a few years. This is NOT a limited production car.

There are tons of people that put their names on the list at multiple dealers and are only going to buy one car. There are going to be people that will back out with the stock market down and interest rates up. There will be people that drive their Z06 for a year and then put it on the market once the ZR1 becomes available. That could lead to a flood of used supply. Chevy could significantly increase production of the Z06 by cutting production to other cars given that this will be more profitable. Lots of factors in play that can change the market.

It is just my opinion, but I think dealers will be openly advertising discounts on ordered C8Z's within the next 3 years. I sure hope I'm right because it doesn't appear that an MSRP GT4RS will be coming my way any time soon.
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Base C8 should be the first to level off. How many C8Z units is GM building a year? Can they crank out those engines like the LT4?
No, they cannot haha.
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      06-09-2022, 04:22 PM   #650
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I live 10 minutes away from the #2 Corvette dealership in the USA (MacMulkin). Will have to swing by and see if they have any on lot.

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You'd have to be stone cold retarded to pay $100k over for a C8Z, or $50k over, or $30k over. 392's have been selling for $10-40k over MSRP since they came out for cars on the lot. I'm not making a direct car comparison, I'm just saying it's a desirable model with high demand that can still be ordered for a ~10-12% discount without hassle. The C8Z will eventually fall into the same hole, though it may take a few years. This is NOT a limited production car.

There are tons of people that put their names on the list at multiple dealers and are only going to buy one car. There are going to be people that will back out with the stock market down and interest rates up. There will be people that drive their Z06 for a year and then put it on the market once the ZR1 becomes available. That could lead to a flood of used supply. Chevy could significantly increase production of the Z06 by cutting production to other cars given that this will be more profitable. Lots of factors in play that can change the market.

It is just my opinion, but I think dealers will be openly advertising discounts on ordered C8Z's within the next 3 years. I sure hope I'm right because it doesn't appear that an MSRP GT4RS will be coming my way any time soon.

I understand your point and it’s def valid but this doesn’t apply so far with the z06, going by what the stingray is being sought after right now.

This z06, with the z06 tour, the 1 hour debut video, the website visualizer that everyone posted to their social media, the most powerful NA v8 stuffed in a production car, in a first time ever mid engine corvette.

This is a supercar that you can own working a regular 9-5 job. You really think after 2 years you’ll find them sitting on lots below msrp?

This is NOTHING like past generation corvettes. The big daddy c7 zr1 when it debuted, no one gave a shit.

The stingray captured the eyes and the c8z has captured everyone’s heart. Everyone wants this car.

Believe me, I been around these corvettes for 2 decades. I never see anything like this.

This z06 will be very desirable for a long ass time.
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I understand your point and it’s def valid but this doesn’t apply so far with the z06, going by what the stingray is being sought after right now.
Yes "right now", he is talking about 3 years from know when supply chains will be back to normal. Freaking Kia Tellurides are selling for over msrp, this current market will not last forever. Already showing signs of demand slowing down. If gas prices and interest rates continue to climb, Joe Schmo in flyover state will start to think twice about his base C8 order. Corvettes will eventually go back to being corvettes, with discounts and employee pricing available.
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      06-09-2022, 05:25 PM   #654
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Yes "right now", he is talking about 3 years from know when supply chains will be back to normal. Freaking Kia Tellurides are selling for over msrp, this current market will not last forever. Already showing signs of demand slowing down. If gas prices and interest rates continue to climb, Joe Schmo in flyover state will start to think twice about his base C8 order. Corvettes will eventually go back to being corvettes, with discounts and employee pricing available.
I predict around 3 years before it starts to "normalize", then 5 for it to become completely normal.

I also stated that we don't even know how long this z06 production run might last given the strict emissions standards as time moves foward.

I'm just explaining that we have never faced what transpired in 2020 and we're still seeing the effects of it (probably even worse now) today.

Like i said, the z06 was supposed to debut in 2022. And people have already taken delivery of their 2023 stingrays and not a single word about the z06 production. They say available summer but that could be in august, with people receiving their z06's in fall, into winter, into spring. Who knows how many they can produce their first model year. Is it 5k? Is it 8k? How many z06's were produced the first model year of the C7? Big difference.

And everything about this z06 is NOTHING like the outgoing z06. And we're going to assume they're going to sit on lots 3 years from now hoping for buyers to come lol.

I guess we'll bump this thread 3 years from now to see.
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Market will eventually correct. When & by how much? All guesses right now.

Anyone thinking the current insanity will last forever is a fool. Now is the time to sell a car
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People should start buying and stashing the Z06. In 30 years, when people will almost exclusively be driving faceless, egg-shaped electric vehicles, it will be the next GNX.
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People should start buying and stashing the Z06. In 30 years, when people will almost exclusively be driving faceless, egg-shaped electric vehicles, it will be the next GNX.
If they can even get one to store them lol

These things seem to be more desired than fucking crypto or something.

It's awesome to be apart of something EVERYONE wants.

Thank god i got on the wait list 2019.
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This is a supercar that you can own working a regular 9-5 job.
I think you might have a skewed view of the pay a "regular 9-5 job" brings in.

Just for easy numbers, 5yr note with 0 down is north of $1800/month before you get to insurance/maintenance/fuel or the TT&L when purchased.

Which by most conservative estimates means your net income needs to be in the $10k/month range.
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I think you might have a skewed view of the pay a "regular 9-5 job" brings in.

Just for easy numbers, 5yr note with 0 down is north of $1800/month before you get to insurance/maintenance/fuel or the TT&L when purchased.

Which by most conservative estimates means your net income needs to be in the $10k/month range.

??

9-5 is a general term for an 8 hour a day job. My friend is in banking and his hours are 9-5 and he makes 140k a year.

I do 11-7 shifts with lots of Double shifts but 11-7 is still 8 hours.

I don’t mean a Walmart or target job when I say 9-5. Lots of people I know have office jobs and make well over 100k.
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