[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Having had a C6 Z06, you need to know two things...

1.) A LOT of LS7's have exhaust valve guide issues from defective heads

2.) It needs better shocks, as stock it's a little sketchy.

The valve issue is overblown. Buy one with the work done already. Problem solved.

Of course going to Bilsteins would be better, but stockers are fine.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by wjones14

I just sat in a 6th gen 2016 Camaro 2SS today and was duly impressed. MSRP was $45,000 and they were advertising it with a $1000 discount before negotiation.

The car has so many standard features and tech bits it's crazy. Customizable gauges. HUD. 25 colors of ambient lighting. Wi-Fi hotspot. Heated and Cooled seats. Heated steering wheel. Rear camera. Parking sensors. Wireless mobile phone charger. On and on.

I want cooled seats.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

The valve issue is overblown. Buy one with the work done already. Problem solved.

Of course going to Bilsteins would be better, but stockers are fine.

Gotcha. Thanks man!

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by wjones14

I just sat in a 6th gen 2016 Camaro 2SS today and was duly impressed. MSRP was $45,000 and they were advertising it with a $1000 discount before negotiation.

The car has so many standard features and tech bits it's crazy. Customizable gauges. HUD. 25 colors of ambient lighting. Wi-Fi hotspot. Heated and Cooled seats. Heated steering wheel. Rear camera. Parking sensors. Wireless mobile phone charger. On and on.

Plus it's actually a decent quality interior. I'm not going to say it's better than the interior in my M235i, but I think it's more interesting and futuristic looking.

And then of course the performance. NA V-8 with 455/455 horsepower/torque. 3.73 LSD. 20" Goodyear Eagle F1 tires. Same platform as the ATS. 3600 pounds.

No one knows exactly how good it is yet, but Motor Trend just did a Head2Head session with it at Willow Springs comparing it to the M4. Should be published on Feb 24 so we'll know soon enough. I'm actually thinking the 2SS is going to beat the M4.

Sounds like you're a believer. I hope they let people test drive these soon!

[Mywifes335]

Bump. Keep em comin. Would love to hear explanation on the "other" category.

[nholmes]

2011 Z06 C6 Carbon Edition.

One of the best performance to dollar road race cars you can get that's almost perfect right out of the box.

Before you jump in with that ZR1 supercharger nonsense that makes the car unbalanced, we're not talking about highway killers here. Go make a turbo supra if you want to do that.

[BloomRunsDubs]

I know its not on your list but im seeing a few F12 M6s for sale for under 60k which is a steal for that car right now and doesn't need and modifications to be cool like the GT-R or vette, and the interior of the F12 is just on another level.

It will still depreciate a bit though. If I had to go buy a car in the 60k price range right now It would be the F12 or an extremely used R8, not another gtr or a vette thats forsure.

911 or M5 are good choices too. 911 is just not for me

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by nholmes

2011 Z06 C6 Carbon Edition.

One of the best performance to dollar road race cars you can get that's almost perfect right out of the box.

Before you jump in with that ZR1 supercharger nonsense that makes the car unbalanced, we're not talking about highway killers here. Go make a turbo supra if you want to do that.

I've always loved the Supra. I drove one last year and was really disappointed in the handling. But the power (heavily modified) was sick. It's still on my list of cars I wish for but won't be a DD.

You and several other guys here have convinced me to
Give the C6Z a serious look. Although the C7 Z51 is tempting at $50k. What do you think of the C7?

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by BloomRunsDubs

I know its not on your list but im seeing a few F12 M6s for sale for under 60k which is a steal for that car right now and doesn't need and modifications to be cool like the GT-R or vette, and the interior of the F12 is just on another level.

It will still depreciate a bit though. If I had to go buy a car in the 60k price range right now It would be the F12 or an extremely used R8, not another gtr or a vette thats forsure.

911 or M5 are good choices too. 911 is just not for me

Looks like 911 is the winner so far, so your suggestion is definitely tops!

You're right, M6 not on the list but is kinda interchangeable with M5.

I didn't know the R8 was so cheap now?

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Looks like 911 is the winner so far, so your suggestion is definitely tops!

You're right, M6 not on the list but is kinda interchangeable with M5.

I didn't know the R8 was so cheap now?

What are YOU leaning toward so far?

[Em135eye]

Not a squeak on the Ultima GTR; you won't get more bang for your bucks.

[Mywifes335]

I'm leaning toward the C7 Z51 as my top choice but concerned about early version reliability. My 2nd choice is a C6Z and the 911 Turbo.

I have test driven the 911 Turbo more recently but want to try the C6Z and C7 Z51 again.

[nholmes]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

I've always loved the Supra. I drove one last year and was really disappointed in the handling. But the power (heavily modified) was sick. It's still on my list of cars I wish for but won't be a DD.

You and several other guys here have convinced me to
Give the C6Z a serious look. Although the C7 Z51 is tempting at $50k. What do you think of the C7?

Body is hands down sexy. IIRC the car does not hold up to track abuse though and has issues with cooling (E92M anyone?), but for a daily I'm sure it would be a lot of fun. I've got my eye on the C7 Z06 though. That would be my next car if the price was closer to what you were looking for.

Hell, even a used Z/28 would be pretty amazing if you can find one for $60k.

I said the 2011 because you almost can't beat the performance to dollar IMO. It might be a bit much for a daily, but the car is perfectly track ready as it sits.

I didn't buy one because I can't afford to stuff $60k on track and walk away.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by nholmes

Body is hands down sexy. IIRC the car does not hold up to track abuse though and has issues with cooling (E92M anyone?), but for a daily I'm sure it would be a lot of fun. I've got my eye on the C7 Z06 though. That would be my next car if the price was closer to what you were looking for.

Hell, even a used Z/28 would be pretty amazing if you can find one for $60k.

I said the 2011 because you almost can't beat the performance to dollar IMO. It might be a bit much for a daily, but the car is perfectly track ready as it sits.

I didn't buy one because I can't afford to stuff $60k on track and walk away.

Me neither. That's why I scrimp on track days..it costs me double for events cuz I buy insurance.

My wife hated all Vettes until the C7. It's the first Vette that doesn't look "creeper" to her.

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

I'm leaning toward the C7 Z51 as my top choice but concerned about early version reliability. My 2nd choice is a C6Z and the 911 Turbo.

I have test driven the 911 Turbo more recently but want to try the C6Z and C7 Z51 again.

I'll just leave this here....you're welcome...

.

[Mywifes335]

Thank you ronanz!

The options on the Hennessy site are bonkers!

[nholmes]

You can probably get more performance for your money without paying for the Henessey name. The last car I saw with the 600hp badge didn't impress me. It was an older camaro and maybe the guy couldn't drive, but my evo ate it alive.

Sounds like you want a stingray? Just get what you want and don't look for people telling you what you want to hear to justify your purchase.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by nholmes

You can probably get more performance for your money without paying for the Henessey name. The last car I saw with the 600hp badge didn't impress me. It was an older camaro and maybe the guy couldn't drive, but my evo ate it alive.

Sounds like you want a stingray? Just get what you want and don't look for people telling you what you want to hear to justify your purchase.

Man, I had an Evo X and loved it. It was a beast. However, my wife refuses for me to get another one. She thinks it's made of Reynolds wrap.

I'm definitely leaning toward the Stingray and 997 Turbo. I just made some choices in the last few years that elicit buyers remorse:

E60 M5 - I lament it but it was so unreliable
E90 335i - it had the N54 but the automatic Steptronic was horrible
F22 M235i - not fast enough after FBO

[AM4ZING]

C6 Z06 for ~$40,000 and $20,000 in mods... Will probably smoke anything

[Yellowflash21]

F12 M6 would be my suggestion with standard tune to up to 700+ hp.

You can get some quality exhaust over time, and enjoy in luxury, excellent comfort and brutal speed.

[BEM-S4]

Since you did a Volvo before have you looked at a CPO Polestar? Drove a wagon a few weeks back at the suggestion of a friend. Not my cup of tea but was surprised and impressed.

[Andrew115]

going on a limb here so don't flame me but how about a CTS-V with some mods. Seems you could get a used one reasonably priced and they can make some serious power with decent interior options.