[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's for sure . And it can happen again ...

It's so obvious now that Sainz's turbo is turned down just a bit for reliability which is why his has lasted without failure.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You can't be serious ?

Once that MAX was on softs , his lap times were suddenly 3 sec. faster .
Even with his DRS failures .

BTW : Once on softs , MAX closed his 22sec. gap in only 7 laps !

In other words : The Russell boy had ZERO chance ...

Nope I'm absolutely serious, I said max was outclassed when George defended against him, hence why even with a significantly faster car max couldn't pass. So when you say max was even faster with softs despite a drs failure, it exemplifies how incredible George's defense was. Because the redbull had significantly more pace per lap and yet George was able to fend him off.

Sure George had zero chance due to the car discrepancy, but the defense he displayed showed that he was absolutely out classing max in that moment.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's so obvious now that Sainz's turbo is turned down just a bit for reliability which is why his has lasted without failure.

Trap speeds in Barcelona qualifying and previous qualifying rounds don't reflect this.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's so obvious now that Sainz's turbo is turned down just a bit for reliability which is why his has lasted without failure.

I said more than once that Charlies PU-HP output was pulled over the top .

My prediction is that Ferraris won't that fast anymore by reliability precautions .

Ferrari won't take the risk anymore .Now that the number 1 is leading the WDC ..

Ferrari was like : Make it or break it ..
And it broke !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I said more than once that Charlies PU-HP output was pulled over the top .

My prediction is that Ferraris won't that fast anymore by reliability precautions .

Ferrari won't take the risk anymore .Now that the number 1 is leading the WDC ..

Ferrari was like : Make it or break it ..
And it broke !

I was always thinking it was too good to be true with Ferrari's resurgence since the previous years, it's like the 'rocket' engined Merc of HAM in Brazil then replace soon and take the 3 place penalty.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Nope I'm absolutely serious, I said max was outclassed when George defended against him, hence why even with a significantly faster car max couldn't pass. So when you say max was even faster with softs despite a drs failure, it exemplifies how incredible George's defense was. Because the redbull had significantly more pace per lap and yet George was able to fend him off.

Sure George had zero chance due to the car discrepancy, but the defense he displayed showed that he was absolutely out classing max in that moment.

Right . Just like HAM said that he was hit by Kmag => https://www.facebook.com/groups/Mana...8309639564357/

To me this looks like HAM's dirty trick at Silverstone Copse turn !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Right . Just like HAM said that he was hit by Kmag => https://www.facebook.com/groups/Mana...8309639564357/

To me this looks like HAM's dirty trick at Silverstone Copse turn !

That wasn't the subject of discussion, the discussion was George in a slower car outclassing max with a stellar defense, what makes it even more spectacular is that cars are even easier to follow this year combined so there's no excuse with dirty air.

I'm not a steward I don't make the calls.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

That wasn't the subject of discussion, the discussion was George in a slower car outclassing max with a stellar defense, what makes it even more spectacular is that cars are even easier to follow this year combined so there's no excuse with dirty air.

I'm not a steward I don't make the calls.

Probably you mean that weaving was the Russell defence ...

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Probably you mean that weaving was the Russell defence ...

Strange, when max weaves even more agressively than this I don't hear a single complaint from you. Zero complaints from redbull too, unlike when max weaves and every opponent calls him a dangerous driver.

George's manoeuvre was barely a weave, for the most part he smartly positioned his car to prevent max from being able to pass. Even 3rd party journalists thought George was spectacular.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Strange, when max weaves even more agressively than this I don't hear a single complaint from you. Zero complaints from redbull too, unlike when max weaves and every opponent calls him a dangerous driver.

George's manoeuvre was barely a weave, for the most part he smartly positioned his car to prevent max from being able to pass. Even 3rd party journalists thought George was spectacular.

Yeah it was some refreshing defence from the Russell boy !

BTW : The Russell boy was aware that MAX's DRS wasn't working ..
That's why RUS pushed MAX 2-times off-track !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah it was some refreshing defence from the Russell boy !

BTW : The Russell boy was aware that MAX's DRS wasn't working ..
That's why RUS pushed MAX 2-times off-track !

Obviously he would've been made aware that Max's drs wasn't working. But that wouldn't be why he pushed max off track he clearly didn't do it intentionally.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Obviously he would've been made aware that Max's drs wasn't working. But that wouldn't be why he pushed max off track he clearly didn't do it intentionally.

Yeah . RUS rear view mirrors were broken

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

*****

With his cameriere carrying team clothes for the pit passerella.



Look at me please! - Lewis

Versus

“Leave me alone” - Kimi, no cameriere required.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

More importantly The Iceman Returneth

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...X1HRqEQFq.html

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by F87source

Obviously he would've been made aware that Max's drs wasn't working. But that wouldn't be why he pushed max off track he clearly didn't do it intentionally.

He did intend to squeeze him off the track. Russell did it slow enough to allow Max to adjust, aggressive but not crazy. Max thought it was ok post-race.

Interestingly, Max gave Russell plenty of room on his initially pass attempt (maybe too much ******* but Max can’t risk a DNF.

The lack of on and off track drama is great this year. Some whinging between RBR and Ferrari but at an acceptable level. Fans of car development and good racing are enjoying this season.

LEC is a class act and with Max no longer the focus of smear campaigns we are seeing good racing (excluding spinning Sainz)

[3798j]

...and Perez..."He said the talks went well – and he has greater clarity. It’s clear that it is his intention to win this weekend’s race – he’s not interested in coming in second – but he also understands the team game."

[3798j]

...and Leclerc...“On tracks like this you have no room for error." “You really feel the adrenaline."
“Last year I took a big risk to get on pole position as I knew I would need a miracle to get to the front row – and I ended up in the wall."
“This time I won’t take such big risks because I understand that points are very important for the championship. But I’m not going to change my approach and I will keep my traditions – especially sleeping at home.”
Leclerc says he has a laser-like focus on winning his first drivers’ title in 2022.
“All I want is to win the title with Ferrari,”

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I see that Chas was on his second turbo and mgu-h both which failed in Barcelona according to latest reports so taking on a third new turbo and mgu-h will be the last of his penalty free supply as it's unlikely he'll use the first turbo.

Typical Ferrari, all uphill from here

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

not knowing anything about Nascar, but for the team's sake I hope it's a sport without onboard radio

No way the rednecks will understand a damn thing he says. Better bring a translator that speaks KIMI

[Killed by Death]

[///M Power-Belgium]

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by 3798j

...and Perez..."He said the talks went well – and he has greater clarity. It’s clear that it is his intention to win this weekend’s race – he’s not interested in coming in second – but he also understands the team game."

My take: likely Red Bull told PER during the Barcelona debriefing to focus on maximizing points for VER + the sooner VER gets to WDC 2022, the sooner VER will switch roles and assist PER in trying to win remaining races. I can see VER capable of giving his word to PER in allowing him a race victory, once the 2022 title would in the bag (which is a hypothetical - don't underestimate LEC and RUS fighting for WDC).

And money talks. Wouldn't be surprised if VER proposed to switch internal bonuses for P1 and P2 for the Barcelona race (no fact - just my guess) + reassured PER to lobby for a contract extension. VER knows that PER could have won at Barcelona and that he took one for the team. VER thanked PER via the onboard radio - so that everyone could clearly hear his appreciation - after the pass and also at the end of the race. He also did that during and after the controversial F1 2021 Abu Dhabi race. VER has a loyal attitude to those who help him, prepared to return a favor.

"Why Red Bull used team orders in Spain – and the two-sided argument over their choice":
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...1oRhoE4kZ.html