[E91toG05]

Originally Posted by TouringM3

Glad i put my name down with BMW for this when the rumor mill started a year ago.

The AWD M5 Touring will be a perfect stablemate for my F81!

I did same though some minor details remain…. Like price.

[sc_tr0jan_m3]

I'm tempted to drop a deposit to get on the list and assess as Q4 comes. I've been holding onto my low mileage F80 for something fun to trade into, and this might be it.

But if my spec ends up being closer to $150-170k, then might as well go GT3 shopping instead. :P

[M3_Mikee]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

Last post from me on this…

Take your M2, mark a point on the road, hit the brakes exactly at that point and stop from 60mph. Mark where the car stopped.

Throw in three of your 200pd buddies (and toss one in the trunk if you like) and repeat the test.

You will take longer to stop.

Hopefully this is in terms you can understand.

Top gear UK did this years ago although I can’t remember what car they used. I’m positive it was an economy car and not a performance type car. The results are what most of us would expect, a longer braking distance.

[NotSharocks]

The US roads are used to whales being on them, so this is no different.

Also, the RS6 will still look better and have a better interior this is a fact.

But cool.

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Problem is this is also irrelevant.

A car with its original tires will take longer to stop when loaded.

The M5 doesn’t have the same tires a car 600lbs lighter does.

And if the next M5 didn’t weigh as much it would stop faster. They wouldn’t say, hey, it’s lighter so we can now put smaller brakes on this one. lol

You’re picking an interesting hill to die on here.

[Mike535xi]

This will be amazing! When I graduate college, I plan to save and get one of these as the car! So excited!

[NotSharocks]

Originally Posted by Mike535xi

This will be amazing! When I graduate college, I plan to save and get one of these as the car! So excited!

Set higher goals man.

[Mike535xi]

Originally Posted by NotSharocks

Set higher goals man.

As a daily driver lol, would like a 997 turbo and murcielago lp640. Chuck an 05 ford gt in there as well, but not bmw related so didn’t include in initial post

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by KHATTI

Also with that I am holding the first allocation for the M5 Wagon at my local retailer and will say goodbye to the Avant. As long as BMW doesnt completely disappoint with its design. The RS6 is pure sex.

Why do you want to get rid of pure sex?

[heymarkv]

Anyone who signed the petition to get a G80 touring for the US should be the first ones signing for an allocation for this.

Prove that you actually want a touring since it’s an extremely niche market for the car in today’s world.

[stormchaser]

Wagon owners are often outdoor enthusiasts, campers, or road trippers like me. I have rented wagons in Germany for 30 years. Now in the USA, they ONLY bring the M version over. Why do I want a wagon that is low to the ground and stiff on rougher roads. Bring a normal wagon over and I will buy it. Also not 6,000 pounds. I love the 3 wagon personally. Or bring over a normal 5 avant. We don't all want M sport.

[M3_Mikee]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Problem is this is also irrelevant.

A car with its original tires will take longer to stop when loaded.

The M5 doesn’t have the same tires a car 600lbs lighter does.

You’re not providing any evidence on your claim.
You’re deflecting as opposed to providing an answer to why you’re right and the rest of us are wrong. Maybe instead of stating our opinions are wrong you can enlighten us?

[cfm56d7b]

BMW did not make this decision lightly. There is a market for M5 Touring in the US. Every single one will be spoken for.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Oh la la. 400lb more than the RS6 Avant. Hmmmm. Tough call.

Not for me. Dear lord the RS6 looks good. My first criteria for choosing an automobile is does it move me visually.

[USDMM3]

They missed the boat. Sorry BMW. The M3 wagon should have been here years ago. Years. I would have gladly purchased an e46, e9x, g8x wagon but now you bring a 125k ish M5 to the states? You guys need to listen to your true fan base. Good luck.

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by Mike535xi

This will be amazing! When I graduate college, I plan to save and get one of these as the car! So excited!

Speak it into existence brother!

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by heymarkv

Anyone who signed the petition to get a G80 touring for the US should be the first ones signing for an allocation for this.

Prove that you actually want a touring since it’s an extremely niche market for the car in today’s world.

Totally different class of cars and different price point. This M5 Touring will almost be 1500lbs more that a M3 Touring not the same feel at all.

I really don’t get this hate toward wagon why anybody should have to prove their use? Just don’t buy one if you don’t like it.

[heymarkv]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Totally different class of cars and different price point. This M5 Touring will almost be 1500lbs more that a M3 Touring not the same feel at all.

I really don’t get this hate toward wagon why anybody should have to prove their use? Just don’t buy one if you don’t like it.

The point is there isn’t a wagon offering from BMW in USA.

Therfore the next best solution since we never received the G8X Touring would be the M5 Touring.

Regardless, a wagon will always be worse performance wise compared to their sedan counterparts. (M5 vs M5 touring) and imo uglier.

It’s a hyper niche market and I’d love to see people who actually want a sporty wagon buy them, but I highly doubt it. When the sales numbers are a flop, BMW will be like “See, told ya so, the Americans don’t actually want wagons.”

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by heymarkv

The point is there isn’t a wagon offering from BMW in USA.

Therfore the next best solution since we never received the G8X Touring would be the M5 Touring.

Regardless, a wagon will always be worse performance wise compared to their sedan counterparts. (M5 vs M5 touring) and imo uglier.

It’s a hyper niche market and I’d love to see people who actually want a sporty wagon buy them, but I highly doubt it. When the sales numbers are a flop, BMW will be like “See, told ya so, the Americans don’t actually want wagons.”

Of course the M5 Touring will be a flop that why they bring a product with such a huge profit margin so even if they sell only 100 it will still make money.

To compare the Touring situation it’s like if BMW USA would kill the XM, the IX, the X1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and bring only the X5M to the U.S. market. Therefore they could tell their SUV fans you see we listen to you their is the X5M for you and we will judge the demand of SUV purely based on thoses sales numbers.

If BMW USA was serious about Wagons we would have a 330i, M340xi, 330e, M3 Touring, i5 40e, 530i, 540i, i5 M60 available as well. Then you can compare the wagons sales figures compared to the sedan and suv. But BMW want to make more money by pushing their us built suv that are more profitable and not subject to import duties.

[xmanpro]

Damn this thread is triggered.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by xmanpro

Damn this thread is triggered.

Instead of “oh cool, another option”

[MT6]

Touring/Station Wagon buyers in North America is a niche category. USA is about SUVs and Full size Trucks.

I think X5 is the highest selling model for BMW in America