[Moewron]

Originally Posted by trev230

I test drove the first one in town last week (posted a quick review in the F90 forum). Not sure who you are talking to but they haven't sold. I'm only aware of them selling the blue demo unit I drove. Touring I'm not sure of. Also, there were numerous other M cars that were ordered cars that buyers backed out of after they showed up to the dealer. Just saying..

I'm not here to bash on the car I just feel like it's a tough sell to people right now and not much of an upgrade over a LCI F90 (other than cosmetics being newer)

Yeah, I think that blue one sold... I bet it was a HEA. Asheville and Greensboro both sold their HEAs to the waitlist (Asheville's was Vegas red). I'll follow up with Hendrick to see if they have one. I called yesterday, and they said they didn't have any but would let me know. Any time I call up to ask to see one, they say the ones that are showing on the website are just being prepped to deliver... seems like an odd thing to tell someone who wants to buy one if its not true lol. I'm not calling you a liar btw, I'm just saying its most likely we're both getting different information. I don't really like Hendrick BMW that much.

Irrespective, I think cars at this price point are always slow movers unless they're super limited, like the CS. In the end, I could give a crap about how well they sell- the only sale I'm interested in is the one to me. =)

[dbru]

Originally Posted by trev230

I test drove the first one in town last week (posted a quick review in the F90 forum). Not sure who you are talking to but they haven't sold. I'm only aware of them selling the blue demo unit I drove. Touring I'm not sure of. Also, there were numerous other M cars that were ordered cars that buyers backed out of after they showed up to the dealer. Just saying..

I'm not here to bash on the car I just feel like it's a tough sell to people right now and not much of an upgrade over a LCI F90 (other than cosmetics being newer)

Dealer names please? If y'all gonna talk about cars sitting on lots just give the dealer names so we can move on them. We should be able to get a deal on them if they can't sell them.

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by dbru

Dealer names please? If y'all gonna talk about cars sitting on lots just give the dealer names so we can move on them. We should be able to get a deal on them if they can't sell them.

BMW of South Atlanta has a black one sitting all the lot. All options except CCB’s.

[comebackbmw]

Originally Posted by dbru

Dealer names please? If y'all gonna talk about cars sitting on lots just give the dealer names so we can move on them. We should be able to get a deal on them if they can't sell them.

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[timecurve]

Running a search on Edmunds.com in my area (Chicago and burbs), there are about 10 cars available with some of them sitting on the dealer lots for about a month now. So yeah, it doesn't look like they are flying off the shelves here.

[dbru]

Originally Posted by timecurve

Running a search on Edmunds.com in my area (Chicago and burbs), there are about 10 cars available with some of them sitting on the dealer lots for about a month now. So yeah, it doesn't look like they are flying off the shelves here.

I'm mean if Edmunds.com says they are available it must be true. That's really your data point? Dealers never pretend to have a car available on these sites to lure possible buyers in.

[timecurve]

Originally Posted by dbru

I'm mean if Edmunds.com says they are available it must be true. That's really your data point? Dealers never pretend to have a car available on these sites to lure possible buyers in.

Of course anything is possible but.... Every one of these listings link up to the official dealer website that shows that the car is still available. I also run a couple of online VIN checks and they all show 1 sale for the car which would be from manufacturer to the dealer.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by timecurve

Of course anything is possible but.... Every one of these listings link up to the official dealer website that shows that the car is still available. I also run a couple of online VIN checks and they all show 1 sale for the car which would be from manufacturer to the dealer.

The trick is to look for ones with real photos. I have had 💯 success on those. And they are popping up daily

[timecurve]

Originally Posted by masd79

The trick is to look for ones with real photos. I have had 💯 success on those. And they are popping up daily

Good point indeed! Here is one example, showing 41 days at the dealer and same car still displayed on the dealer's site:

https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/m5/2025/...3FK05SCT26333/

[sm16]

I’m actually fine with them sitting on the floor longer than expected. It means there is a higher likelihood that they’ll offer incentives soon.

[AHall]

Originally Posted by trev230

I test drove the first one in town last week (posted a quick review in the F90 forum). Not sure who you are talking to but they haven't sold. I'm only aware of them selling the blue demo unit I drove. Touring I'm not sure of. Also, there were numerous other M cars that were ordered cars that buyers backed out of after they showed up to the dealer. Just saying..

I'm not here to bash on the car I just feel like it's a tough sell to people right now and not much of an upgrade over a LCI F90 (other than cosmetics being newer)

Could this be related to something other than the G90 since you indicated buyers are backing out of other cars they have ordered? I figure the M5 will sell well and even pick up people who would have purchased the MB E63 which is no longer available in the US. Time will tell.

[dbru]

Originally Posted by timecurve

Good point indeed! Here is one example, showing 41 days at the dealer and same car still displayed on the dealer's site:

https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/m5/2025/...3FK05SCT26333/

I posted photos of that exact car from that dealer here a week ago. I went there so I could at least sit in the vehicle. It's their HEA and it's not for sale. Using it to bring people to bring folks in. The guy told me they had a few orders being built but sold.

I'm not saying there may not be a few floating around but the notion of the market is saturated with cars on lots is not true. I just called Perillo today about a black one on their site. It was already sold.

[masd79]

Go to cars.com, search for m5 g90, scroll and stop on those with real photos not stock, call them.. voila…

[PNWM3]

Originally Posted by trev230

Same around Charlotte. Dealer units sitting. No incentives, no EV credit, high payments on lease or purchase, plus you need to install a L2 charger. Not gaining much traction so far.

That’s not true. You don’t need to install an L2 charger at all. It’s range is so low that just plugging the charging cable it comes with into a 110 outlet will charge it over night easily. It’s the same as the XM and that’s all I did. And you don’t even need to ever charge it if you don’t want to, it’ll just function as a mild hybrid then. When I go on long trips with the XM, I’ll do a few days and 1,000+ miles without plugging it in.

[AndWhat]

Originally Posted by soulsea

My dealer also got their first one today. Not spoken for and available at msrp, which is really telling. They'd rather sell to a local customer but I'm sure they'll take anyone's money.

Seeing it in person has not changed my mind at all. It looks massive and sits really high for a sedan, and it sounds sad. The interface is way to complicated although I'm sure that can be remedied my the M button shortcuts. On the positive side if feels a lot more spacious inside than the previous gen, and the seats are a lot more comfortable, and it sounds better on the inside with the fake exhaust noises than it sounds from the outside. I didn't get to drive it so I have no opinion about dynamics. Still unlikely to accept my Touring allocation.

Here’s the same car with tint and ready for delivery on Friday. Trading my XM Label for her.

[soulsea]

Originally Posted by AndWhat

Here’s the same car with tint and ready for delivery on Friday. Trading my XM Label for her.

Congrats!!!

Glad she went to someone locally.

[masd79]

Originally Posted by AndWhat

Here’s the same car with tint and ready for delivery on Friday. Trading my XM Label for her.

Did you lease or buy? Can you share any details.

[AndWhat]

Originally Posted by masd79

Did you lease or buy? Can you share any details.

Got her at MSRP, carried some negative equity from the Label so my numbers wouldn’t help those looking to lease. Plus this is my 7th car from this dealer so I tend to get some solid deals. If I wasn’t carrying negative equity in then it would be $2022 monthly @ 36 months and 10k miles per year, sign and drive no cash out.

[Oswiff]

Originally Posted by AndWhat

Got her at MSRP, carried some negative equity from the Label so my numbers wouldn’t help those looking to lease. Plus this is my 7th car from this dealer so I tend to get some solid deals. If I wasn’t carrying negative equity in then it would be $2022 monthly @ 36 months and 10k miles per year, sign and drive no cash out.

What was MSRP?

[BimmerBahn]

Originally Posted by EUPremier

I would advise that you ‘do not fear the PHEV’. I was very anti-PHEV for years. Then taxation forced me into one in my market and I realised I was wrong.
The drivetrain has a whole new level of power availability and the ability to make the car silent on-demand has many benefits too.
My G30 545e had the B58 engine + electric. Stated 388hp but felt every but as quick as the F10 M5 I traded for it.
The 545e also used a lot less fuel in the daily drive. Like, zero comparison to the ICE-only M5.

Yup… the electric motor torque from rev 1 really helps off the line until the engine has a chance to catch up….also great for around town electric-only so you’re not heat-cycling the engine for short trips. My hope is next gen battery tech allows for some weight shedding so these PHEV’s aren’t 2.5-tonne Sally’s.

[AndWhat]

Originally Posted by Oswiff

What was MSRP?

$132,904 (includes dealer fees, tax, and tags).

[KASM3]

My opinion on new G90

I have driven an f90 LCI comp with CCB’s for 4 years and have had the G90 now for 2 weeks. I haven’t done break in service yet but will give my .02.

1. Engine: I am convinced the s68 is not a detuned version of the f90. In engine only mode this engine does a great job of moving 5000 lbs off the line.
From 50 MPH to top speed in AMY gear this car is a missile. The instant quiet torque from the electric motors get you past 100mph before you realize it. This is something to be experienced. I loved the f90 but doesn’t compare to the G90.

2. Hybrid experience-Since electric motor is in the transmission the shifts trick you into forgetting the transitions from engine to electric. It is almost seamless in function. Great job

3. Sound. BMW did an amazing job in making synthesized in cabin noises seem real. If I didn’t know they were pumped in I wouldn’t know. Fantastic job. F90 was too isolated. Outside there are some pops and bangs but f90 sounded better on outside. Equal

4. I love the bulldog bulging fender look of the M5. I personally hated blending in with other 5 ers with the f90. This one gets attention from more than those who just know. G90 win

5. Interior: Less luxurious, sound system isn’t as good as the B+W in the f90, too many plastic pieces, less leather surfaces and I miss the soft close doors. There is a lot more theater in the g90 but I miss my physical buttons like my radio presets. I hate clinking into I drive or steering wheel button to get my station. Seats in g90 are just as good but again some adjustments like side bolsters and thigh extensions have to be done on the I drive. F90 wins here to me

6. Handling- f90 definitely more agile and changes direction with more precision. G90 is great but physics must be obeyed. Sharp turns and the front end does push. right foot can correct it but f90 was more neutral. G90 ride however is much more comfortable and compliant over bad roads.. Equal

7. Size/seating position- I didn’t have any problem going from f90 to g90. If I was going from m3/m4 to g90, definitely some getting use to. I didn’t have a problem with seating position or height. Equal.

8. Brakes- I ended up getting steels because I was worried about the weight but my dealer spec’d the car so it was take it or leave it. Other than the brake dust, I have been impressed with them so far. I have not felt any lack of stopping power so far. From 110 to zero a few times and no fade. Not sue I would do whole weekend at the track. They do squeak some but so did my ccb’s.

Overall- Since this is my daily driver, I love the g90. I have to master I drive 8.5 but the car, in person, is gorgeous, drives smaller than actual weight and is amazingly comfortable to drive. Can’t comment on mileage yet. However, anyone who considers this car needs a radar detector and/or activating the speed warning because triple digits will be a frequent event on overtaking.