To all the new STI haters out there

Nikolas · 10-03-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sokdo

I really don't think the WRX requires all that to be a faster car. Hid headlights add like what 10hp? Interior mods 25 hp? new wheels = 100 hp??? wide body = ???
my point was that it didn't justify the 10k difference to have a car that was virtually the same speed albeit a loss of some track performance which would easily be taken care of by the 10k and have some left over.

While that may have been your point, it is not what you said. You asked if all those items were worth the 10K in mods. I answered. It is also why I stated some of them are subjective as not all the differences are performance. All of those differences are worth money.

For track performance to be close at the very least you would need to replace the entire suspension and the big brake kit - that's almost 1/2 way there on those two mods alone. Steering rack would be optional but the STI's is quicker. Honestly go drive them both. There is a big difference in how the car feels and the confidence it instills on a track.

TheLegend · 10-04-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kampfer

How does it compare comfort and noise-wise (essentially, daily-driving wise) to the 335i?

The STI ride quality is actually better than the 335i imo, I blame the sports suspensions and runflats in my previous 335i. A bit more body roll but nothing some mods couldn't fix.

However in terms of interior comfort the STI is of course not as good as the 335i and does have a bit more road noise. Seats are nowhere near as comfortable as the sports seats in my 335i. After 3 hrs my lower back starts hurting. Couple creaks here and there. factory ipod connectivity is trash.

All that aside I do use my STI as a daily driver and I couldn't be happier, it's pretty much depends where your priorities are set. I can make do without some of the luxuries, and it's much cheaper to maintenance and work on.

Davin · 10-04-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

im not a hater i actually love these cars esp when there modded tastefully

me too

They are very common where i live

Genericuser1 · 10-06-2009, 04:46 PM

I see shot's of Logan's car show up in more places. Here is his Journal, he's probably put in $20k to that STI although he has done a fair amount himself and sold lots of the OEM parts. Great looking STI.

Just bought this wheel for mine today and can't wait to have it installed. The stock wheel is so cheap feeling.

powertrip · 10-06-2009, 05:32 PM

You're right about '07+ Subies having very unsafe tunes. With that said, I think you're a little off base regarding the power potential. The '08+ STI's run a VF48 turbo which maxes out at 300-320whp with intake, header, catless exhaust, etc on 91 octane. The only way to get to 350 would be external wastegate on race gas, or meth injection

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Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

Cobb stage 2 is inevitable...it's such an easy 300-315whp. Hell, with the 07+ engines, it's actually safer to get a custom tune because the stock tune was blowing up engines. With a good tune you'll be able to run 350whp for over 100k miles on that car. I have over 40k miles of 380whp on my 05...oh and still have the stock clutch.

Muffnbluff · 10-06-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

You're right about '07+ Subies having very unsafe tunes. With that said, I think you're a little off base regarding the power potential. The '08+ STI's run a VF48 turbo which maxes out at 300-320whp with intake, header, catless exhaust, etc on 91 octane. The only way to get to 350 would be external wastegate on race gas, or meth injection

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I guess I didn't say it well, I know there is a limit on the power of the stock turbo on pump, I more meant that if you ended up with 350whp (i.e. a 20g turbo swap) that the engine would take that power level forever without a problem.

Inspired · 10-06-2009, 08:19 PM

sti doesn't come with leather seats? the interior looks like my ford focus loaner I have right now.

Muffnbluff · 10-06-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by twinturbo335

sti doesn't come with leather seats? the interior looks like my ford focus loaner I have right now.

The STi comes with alcantara seats...probably nicer than the ford focus seats. It's not like the STi is built to be a luxury car with fancy electronics, it's a drivers car. You don't see many 40 year old housewives driving the STI...which can't really be said about the 135/335.

Inspired · 10-06-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

doesn't look like leather to me? unless this is some aftermarket seats?

Inspired · 10-06-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

The STi comes with alcantara seats...probably nicer than the ford focus seats. It's not like the STi is built to be a luxury car with fancy electronics, it's a drivers car. You don't see many 40 year old housewives driving the STI...which can't really be said about the 135/335.

Not a lot of 40 YO but a shit load of 16 year olds that always try to race me in my 335..

Nikolas · 10-06-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by twinturbo335

sti doesn't come with leather seats? the interior looks like my ford focus loaner I have right now.

Let's not forget that leather seats are only an option on the 335. Plastic is standard!

Nikolas · 10-06-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twinturbo335

doesn't look like leather to me? unless this is some aftermarket seats?

Those are Recaro's in Alcantara - probably much nicer than our BMW seats

josephr25 · 10-06-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikolas

Let's not forget that leather seats are only an option on the 335. Plastic is standard!

You forgot that the leather isn't very nice either

Nikolas · 10-06-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kampfer

You forgot that the leather isn't very nice either

True. Personally I prefer the Alcantara.

Genericuser1 · 10-07-2009, 10:11 AM

Yep in the shot I posted those are JDM Recaro's, all Alcantara. Stock seats are Leather/Alcantara as Gator posted and very comfortable for daily or spirited driving. If you were going to track or Auto X alot you'd need aftermarket ones as there isn't enough thigh bolstering.

The wheel at current exchange rates (damn weak dollar) is $518. Should take a couple of weeks to arrive from Japan.

babieeddie · 11-24-2009, 02:21 AM

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san~man · 11-24-2009, 02:31 AM

Aside from the halo HL, I like it.

Heinzftw · 11-24-2009, 10:58 AM

Good looking STI, but the car looks so JDM'd out. Rims look like some ROTA's, and looks too boy racer as stated.

BroDoze · 11-24-2009, 11:48 AM

As a previous '05 STi' owner, I just cannot get into the new body. In my quest for a new car, I've driven new Evo MR's, STi's (like 4 different times) etc. and I just cannot get there at all with the hatch.

That STi pictured had a complete rework done to it to look acceptable. Probably $5-$7K minmum went into making it look likethat. JUST to look acceptable. No thanks.

That said, Subaru is releasing the STi in a new sedan body in 2011 which will hopefully look a lot better. It's going to piss off a lot of people that settled for the hatch. I just hope it's not that cool because I'm picking up my '10 135i in 4 days...

Anybody that has owned an STi here will agree there is a LOT lacking on them. The interior is pretty bad, particularly the seats. They are the widest, most unsupportive seats offered in a $30K+ "sports" car. The suspension come SO soft from the factory. The steering ratio is WAY to high for the car. The steering feedback is extremely vague.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my STi, and it was a beast with tons of mods on it (susp./engine), but until Subaru decides to make it a more serious car (like the Evo) I will be passing. The thing is dumbed down so far for both genders of all ages.

One test drive in a new 135i showed me a completely different type of car than I'm used to and I'm glad to make the change.

If taking a car to the absolute limit in the 1/4mi, track etc, is you goal, then maybe an STi would suit better than a 135i, because of all of the available mods/tuners. I just want a 12 second car that feels amazing to drive, yet is still a bit classier with a nice interior and daily driver suspension. I think a 135i with a Hotchkis front sway and a JB3 will give me that. We'll see.

Genericuser1 · 11-25-2009, 12:44 PM

And some people bought the hatch because they like it better than a sedan, you know you can carry more stuff and don't have a park bench on the trunk.

Subaru doesn't make attractive cars. The best bet for an attractive Subaru is the Toyota/Subaru coupe coming out.

lopealle · 11-25-2009, 01:35 PM

aww yes the typical bash a car if its not a bmw. subies are pretty awesome. there is a butt load of them over here.

Kev · 11-25-2009, 02:22 PM

That's an awesome car. I was thinking picking one up vs the Lancer Sportback next year if this winter doesn't work out so well in the M3.

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Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	I see shot's of Logan's car show up in more places. Here is his Journal, he's probably put in $20k to that STI although he has done a fair amount himself and sold lots of the OEM parts. Great looking STI. Just bought this wheel for mine today and can't wait to have it installed. The stock wheel is so cheap feeling.
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10-06-2009, 08:19 PM	#73
Inspired Colonel 153 Rep 2,368 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California iTrader: (2)	sti doesn't come with leather seats? the interior looks like my ford focus loaner I have right now.
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10-07-2009, 10:11 AM	#81
Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Yep in the shot I posted those are JDM Recaro's, all Alcantara. Stock seats are Leather/Alcantara as Gator posted and very comfortable for daily or spirited driving. If you were going to track or Auto X alot you'd need aftermarket ones as there isn't enough thigh bolstering. The wheel at current exchange rates (damn weak dollar) is $518. Should take a couple of weeks to arrive from Japan.
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11-24-2009, 02:21 AM	#82
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11-24-2009, 02:31 AM	#83
san~man Tired 136 Rep 2,673 Posts Drives: BMW-less Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (7)	Aside from the halo HL, I like it. __________________ BMW-less
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11-24-2009, 11:48 AM	#85
BroDoze Colonel 2157 Rep 2,297 Posts Drives: 2025 M2 LCI Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CO iTrader: (0)	As a previous '05 STi' owner, I just cannot get into the new body. In my quest for a new car, I've driven new Evo MR's, STi's (like 4 different times) etc. and I just cannot get there at all with the hatch. That STi pictured had a complete rework done to it to look acceptable. Probably $5-$7K minmum went into making it look likethat. JUST to look acceptable. No thanks. That said, Subaru is releasing the STi in a new sedan body in 2011 which will hopefully look a lot better. It's going to piss off a lot of people that settled for the hatch. I just hope it's not that cool because I'm picking up my '10 135i in 4 days... Anybody that has owned an STi here will agree there is a LOT lacking on them. The interior is pretty bad, particularly the seats. They are the widest, most unsupportive seats offered in a $30K+ "sports" car. The suspension come SO soft from the factory. The steering ratio is WAY to high for the car. The steering feedback is extremely vague. Don't get me wrong, I loved my STi, and it was a beast with tons of mods on it (susp./engine), but until Subaru decides to make it a more serious car (like the Evo) I will be passing. The thing is dumbed down so far for both genders of all ages. One test drive in a new 135i showed me a completely different type of car than I'm used to and I'm glad to make the change. If taking a car to the absolute limit in the 1/4mi, track etc, is you goal, then maybe an STi would suit better than a 135i, because of all of the available mods/tuners. I just want a 12 second car that feels amazing to drive, yet is still a bit classier with a nice interior and daily driver suspension. I think a 135i with a Hotchkis front sway and a JB3 will give me that. We'll see.
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Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	And some people bought the hatch because they like it better than a sedan, you know you can carry more stuff and don't have a park bench on the trunk. Subaru doesn't make attractive cars. The best bet for an attractive Subaru is the Toyota/Subaru coupe coming out.
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lopealle Resident Black Guy 268 Rep 2,302 Posts Drives: Lion Join Date: May 2009 Location: Federal Way, WA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 M5 [10.00]	aww yes the typical bash a car if its not a bmw. subies are pretty awesome. there is a butt load of them over here.
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Kev Critical Care Anesthesiologist 489 Rep 8,824 Posts Drives: SMB F83 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (24) Garage List 2009 Porsche 911 Ca ... [9.50]	That's an awesome car. I was thinking picking one up vs the Lancer Sportback next year if this winter doesn't work out so well in the M3. __________________ kev { divinum est sedate dolorem } "your friendly neighborhood critical care anesthesiologist"
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