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      06-23-2021, 09:30 PM   #925
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Production dates for XM (hopefully the correct ones this time), a few other minor things.
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Offering extended seat adjustment only for the driver's seat - is that really how they're gonna try improve profitability going forward? Holy hell.
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Offering extended seat adjustment only for the driver's seat - is that really how they're gonna try improve profitability going forward? Holy hell.
As they did with the auto dim mirror for the passenger side. BMW sucks if they do this as well.
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August 2021:

G42 220i, 220d, 230i, M240i
Shouldn't that be M240ix or are we getting the RWD variant form the start (which would be great )?
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Offering extended seat adjustment only for the driver's seat - is that really how they're gonna try improve profitability going forward? Holy hell.
As they did with the auto dim mirror for the passenger side. BMW sucks if they do this as well.
Yeah. Glad I've got my old turn signal stalks and two dimming mirrors.

I mean, this is something non-premium brands tend to do...
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"]..Is there any chance of an electric Coupe in the BMW lineup?[/COLOR]
Sure. By 2035-ish I would expect some sort of electric two door BMW. And I would not be surprised if it were the only coupe in the lineup by that time. I say that because I expect the 8er Coupe and Z4 to disappear after the current generation, while I could see the 2er and 4er coupes merge into a single model going by some new name.

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[COLOR="DarkGreen"]an i4 with the body of the G82 ?[/COLOR]
I think we can safely rule that out. The G82 will be ancient history by 2035. And even the i4 name might not be around then (though it just as easily could be).
"while I could see the 2er and 4er coupes merge into a single model going by some new name"

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Yeah. Glad I've got my old turn signal stalks and two dimming mirrors.

I mean, this is something non-premium brands tend to do...
Yeah, the old soft touch turn signal stalks was so nice. Luckily, its possible to do the soft touch stalks retrofit for F-/G-series with mechanical stalks and auto dim mirror, but its annoying that BMW are trying to save some money on these things.
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Yeah. Glad I've got my old turn signal stalks and two dimming mirrors.

I mean, this is something non-premium brands tend to do...
True, but still it's a good thing they don't go full heritage on us and delete one mirror entirely
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Interesting that BMW is resorted to de-contenting models to boost profits when dealers are posting record profit per unit. Perhaps rationalizing the dealer network and rewarding volume over gouging would better serve BMW and it's customer base than giving people less for more.
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Genuinely interested to see how light the M4 Coupe`Sport Lightweight will actually be. Will it earn the CSL badge?
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Offering extended seat adjustment only for the driver's seat - is that really how they're gonna try improve profitability going forward? Holy hell.
As they did with the auto dim mirror for the passenger side. BMW sucks if they do this as well.
Try to buy that mirror. $450 🤦🏻*♂️
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Yeah, the old soft touch turn signal stalks was so nice. Luckily, its possible to do the soft touch stalks retrofit for F-/G-series with mechanical stalks and auto dim mirror, but its annoying that BMW are trying to save some money on these things.
I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
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I'm really excited for the new 2er coupe!
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I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
Internet car reviewers love to trash this design, but it's because they're stupid and have to find something to complain about. I always loved the self-centering stalks, they look and feel premium. You get used to them within minutes, it's not that complicated. My Alfa has it, very refreshing. You can tell that Alfa really tried emulating the E90 in many ways.
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So will the G81 M3 be coming to US?

I did a quick search and all I see is a petition..

Has anyone confirmed if we will get it!?
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Try to buy that mirror. $450 ����*♂️
I know, but its totally worth it.

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I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
I did the touch stalks retrofit for an G20 with all Driving Assistant options. Everything works perfect. I think they did it because they wanted to save money or the "new FWD-BMW" owners complained about them.

I really miss the touch column stalks - BMW, please bring them back! At least as an option.

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I did the touch stalks retrofit for an G20 with all Driving Assistant options. Everything works perfect. I think they did it because they wanted to save money or the "new FWD-BMW" owners complained about them.

I really miss the touch column stalks - BMW, please bring them back! At least as an option.
Looks pro dude
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Internet car reviewers love to trash this design, but it's because they're stupid and have to find something to complain about. I always loved the self-centering stalks, they look and feel premium. You get used to them within minutes, it's not that complicated. My Alfa has it, very refreshing. You can tell that Alfa really tried emulating the E90 in many ways.
Exactly! Also, I just find that it allows me to use less force and less fingers - for the lack of better word - to operate stalk due to the shorter travel of the stalk itself.

It's those little things that make a big difference.
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Has BMW ever even considered the idea of a M4 Grand Coupe?
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So will the G81 M3 be coming to US?

I did a quick search and all I see is a petition..

Has anyone confirmed if we will get it!?
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Has BMW ever even considered the idea of a M4 Grand Coupe?
Hard no in both cases. Only a lot of baseless rumors.
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Every single car is going to get the new dash screens with deleted climate buttons. Going to be a dealbreaker for everything.
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