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      08-05-2022, 12:40 PM   #1035
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if someone asked a 1000 people if you could have any car what would it be? ZERO would pick any Vette. Which answers the question of super car or not to me. Some people dream and some dream big����
to me, that is the connotation of exotic, not super car.
people want an exotic because that scenario you want what you can't have, so to speak. the definition of exotic means "originating in a far away/foreign land." so by definition exotic can be a fiat.... but automotive connotation for exotic is something just out of reach for someone who is asked "if you could pick..." meaning "you can't have so if you could." no one asks "if you could" to someone who can.

wikipedia uses supercar and exotic interchangeably but defines supercar as "a loosely defined description of street-legal, high-performance sports cars." so a corvette DEFINITELY fits into that box.

but it does NOT fit the exotic connotation or definition because it IS made in the USA AND people can buy one, so they can indeed have one if they really want one.

with that out of the way, let's move on.

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to me, that is the connotation of exotic, not super car.
people want an exotic because that scenario you want what you can't have, so to speak. the definition of exotic means "originating in a far away/foreign land." so by definition exotic can be a fiat.... but automotive connotation for exotic is something just out of reach for someone who is asked "if you could pick..." meaning "you can't have so if you could." no one asks "if you could" to someone who can.

wikipedia uses supercar and exotic interchangeably but defines supercar as "a loosely defined description of street-legal, high-performance sports cars." so a corvette DEFINITELY fits into that box.

but it does NOT fit the exotic connotation or definition because it IS made in the USA AND people can buy one, so they can indeed have one if they really want one.

with that out of the way, let's move on.
Lol exactly.

First that clown says same price corvette or Ferrari what would I pick?

Corvettes never cost what Ferraris cost but offer equal or better performance for 1/3 or half the price.

There’s people on the corvette forum with Ferraris, mclarens, Porsche turbo s and yet they’re still buying corvettes.

Is it an exotic in the sense of cost and limited quantity? No.

But it is a supercar.

And more will agree than not so yeah let’s move on.

Hopefully those on the lists will finally own gm’s first supercar soon!!!
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to me, that is the connotation of exotic, not super car.
people want an exotic because that scenario you want what you can't have, so to speak. the definition of exotic means "originating in a far away/foreign land." so by definition exotic can be a fiat.... but automotive connotation for exotic is something just out of reach for someone who is asked "if you could pick..." meaning "you can't have so if you could." no one asks "if you could" to someone who can.

wikipedia uses supercar and exotic interchangeably but defines supercar as "a loosely defined description of street-legal, high-performance sports cars." so a corvette DEFINITELY fits into that box.

but it does NOT fit the exotic connotation or definition because it IS made in the USA AND people can buy one, so they can indeed have one if they really want one.

with that out of the way, let's move on.
Lol exactly.

First that clown says same price corvette or Ferrari what would I pick?

Corvettes never cost what Ferraris cost but offer equal or better performance for 1/3 or half the price.

There’s people on the corvette forum with Ferraris, mclarens, Porsche turbo s and yet they’re still buying corvettes.

Is it an exotic in the sense of cost and limited quantity? No.

But it is a supercar.

And more will agree than not so yeah let’s move on.

Hopefully those on the lists will finally own gm’s first supercar soon!!!
Stop going to price dude. There is always an excuse to buy or not buy something. Again. If people want a Vette, they would buy the highest model they could afford. You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S? You rattle off these numbers and say this or that is an exotic? A plaid will smoke just about every car EVER built. I guess you would say that's exotic to? Just cause your a total insane Vette lover will never make the car an exotic/ super car anything. My opinion, a 911 turbo is not an exotic super car. Yet it will destroy your Z06 in reverse off the line. Yes, the Vette has a lot of hype. You know why? It sounds like a real Exotic. Lol. I hope I get one. Maybe I keep it or maybe not. I fucking hate the ass end!!!!' I prey an aftermarket something will help it out. I think with new wheels, lowered and an exhaust 85% of the car is Dope. I hope the car is as magical as you are always saying and not a flop. 🙏🙏🙏
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      08-05-2022, 07:44 PM   #1038
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Stop going to price dude. There is always an excuse to buy or not buy something. Again. If people want a Vette, they would buy the highest model they could afford. You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S? You rattle off these numbers and say this or that is an exotic? A plaid will smoke just about every car EVER built. I guess you would say that's exotic to? Just cause your a total insane Vette lover will never make the car an exotic/ super car anything. My opinion, a 911 turbo is not an exotic super car. Yet it will destroy your Z06 in reverse off the line. Yes, the Vette has a lot of hype. You know why? It sounds like a real Exotic. Lol. I hope I get one. Maybe I keep it or maybe not. I fucking hate the ass end!!!!' I prey an aftermarket something will help it out. I think with new wheels, lowered and an exhaust 85% of the car is Dope. I hope the car is as magical as you are always saying and not a flop. 🙏🙏🙏

This post is proof that you had ZERO input to the discussion at all. And your insecurity has been shown in plain view for all of us to see.

So every car people buy, it HAS TO BE the top of the line?

My manager makes 526k a year as i saw his paystub by accident in his car. You want to know what car he drives? A jeep fucking grand fucking cherokee. His wife drives plain jane X4. Not even an X4M. She's a nurse. He makes 526k. So i guess he can't afford an X4M then since he got his wife an X4.

Stop going to price? This is what you said.

Same price, performance etc, would you buy the Chevy or something like a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc?

This post makes zero sense as a corvette is in a different price bracket as ferrari or a lambo. I never said a corvette is in that price bracket. I also said is a corvette an exotic in the sense of price and limited production in numbers. I said no.

I said is it a supercar in the general meaning of the word? YES.

You keep saying it's not, just because GM has built something extremely special.

I also said WHAT WE KNOW OF SO FAR, makes the car all of any definition of the word, supercar.

I also said we have to wait until we see performance data before we can solidify as the car being an actual supercar. From what we know SO FAR about the car, it is 1000000% is.

You keep getting your feelings hurt for some reason that someone wants to label a mass produced corvette a supercar.

I have owned corvettes for 2 decades and never once have i said any of the corvettes i owned were supercars. So how am i a fanboy?

Everyone and their mother knows GM built something special with the C8Z. GM's first supercar.

Stop whining dude. You're the one who said we have to agree to disagree. And i agreed to even that. You don't think the car is a supercar and that's fine. You don't. Awesome.

I do and more people will agree than those who will agree with you.
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Stop going to price dude. There is always an excuse to buy or not buy something. Again. If people want a Vette, they would buy the highest model they could afford. You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S? You rattle off these numbers and say this or that is an exotic? A plaid will smoke just about every car EVER built. I guess you would say that's exotic to? Just cause your a total insane Vette lover will never make the car an exotic/ super car anything. My opinion, a 911 turbo is not an exotic super car. Yet it will destroy your Z06 in reverse off the line. Yes, the Vette has a lot of hype. You know why? It sounds like a real Exotic. Lol. I hope I get one. Maybe I keep it or maybe not. I fucking hate the ass end!!!!' I prey an aftermarket something will help it out. I think with new wheels, lowered and an exhaust 85% of the car is Dope. I hope the car is as magical as you are always saying and not a flop. 🙏🙏🙏

This post is proof that you had ZERO input to the discussion at all. And your insecurity has been shown in plain view for all of us to see.

So every car people buy, it HAS TO BE the top of the line?

My manager makes 526k a year as i saw his paystub by accident in his car. You want to know what car he drives? A jeep fucking grand fucking cherokee. His wife drives plain jane X4. Not even an X4M. She's a nurse. He makes 526k. So i guess he can't afford an X4M then since he got his wife an X4.

Stop going to price? This is what you said.

Same price, performance etc, would you buy the Chevy or something like a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc?

This post makes zero sense as a corvette is in a different price bracket as ferrari or a lambo. I never said a corvette is in that price bracket. I also said is a corvette an exotic in the sense of price and limited production in numbers. I said no.

I said is it a supercar in the general meaning of the word? YES.

You keep saying it's not, just because GM has built something extremely special.

I also said WHAT WE KNOW OF SO FAR, makes the car all of any definition of the word, supercar.

I also said we have to wait until we see performance data before we can solidify as the car being an actual supercar. From what we know SO FAR about the car, it is 1000000% is.

You keep getting your feelings hurt for some reason that someone wants to label a mass produced corvette a supercar.

I have owned corvettes for 2 decades and never once have i said any of the corvettes i owned were supercars. So how am i a fanboy?

Everyone and their mother knows GM built something special with the C8Z. GM's first supercar.

Stop whining dude. You're the one who said we have to agree to disagree. And i agreed to even that. You don't think the car is a supercar and that's fine. You don't. Awesome.

I do and more people will agree than those who will agree with you.
Good talk. I have no feelings. It's a car. Very low on my daily life enjoyment. Go hang some more C8 posters on your wall by the bunk beds. Have a good weekend homie. 😘
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
I love him!! I know I will get a laugh when I go to read his amazing posts and replies. It's like watching Caddy Shack. You know exactly what's going
To happen, yet you laugh every time🤣.
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
do you own a corvette or a ferrari?
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
No one chooses between a Corvette and an exotic the likes of a Ferrari/Lamborghini/McLaren. However, some people who already own one or several exotics could still consider getting a C8 Z06 as their daily commuter. I know I would rather have a Z06 than a Carrera S (just as an example).
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I love him!! I know I will get a laugh when I go to read his amazing posts and replies. It's like watching Caddy Shack. You know exactly what's going
To happen, yet you laugh every time🤣.
Pretty sure he blocked me awhile ago lol. He / She (not sure his pronouns) is a very strange individual. I question if he even owns an M3 or whatever he claims he has with his self-deprecating nonsense.
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You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S?
I resemble that remark. I specifically wanted 2S cos i don't want AWD on my dang sports car
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious



Sad, but true. I had a c7Z06 when i was 28, and it was a great car. Fast, and reliable. It's sad that many people wont give the Corvette a chance simply because it's a "chevy" .. get off the high horse.

Too many cars out there to drive, and own, not enough time. The Z's have always been fast, and the C8Z will been no exception. It's going to slap alot of supercars around and have reliability and low maintenance to boot. But it still isn't a supercar. It's just as fast (or) faster than some...
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do you own a corvette or a ferrari?
People who talk out of their ass like most here don't have either. They just say they do, or know a friend, or saw something online and they draw their conclusions based on that.

Corvettes have had supercar performance for decades, and it was never a supercar.

The C8Z finally is, and when we get the performance data, will cement it as one.

But i guess it's also cool to just spend more money, on a 10 year old exotic, that's slower, with old tech, no warranty, with a shit ton of mileage just to spite GM's new creation of their supercar, just to say, that's not a supercar, i rather have a 10 year old exotic instead.

Pure comedy LOL
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No one chooses between a Corvette and an exotic the likes of a Ferrari/Lamborghini/McLaren. However, some people who already own one or several exotics could still consider getting a C8 Z06 as their daily commuter. I know I would rather have a Z06 than a Carrera S (just as an example).
Right. Many people on the corvette forum with BOTH.

A "poor man" stingray, sitting next to their ferrari. With their C8Z on order.

I guess supercar owners like shopping for new supercars
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Are you guys really still arguing over this? Neither side has convinced the other side in weeks.
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Are you guys really still arguing over this? Neither side has convinced the other side in weeks.
It's over. I'm ordering my next super car soon. Plaid baby!!! Let the arguments commence🤪😳.
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
No one chooses between a Corvette and an exotic the likes of a Ferrari/Lamborghini/McLaren. However, some people who already own one or several exotics could still consider getting a C8 Z06 as their daily commuter. I know I would rather have a Z06 than a Carrera S (just as an example).
I've only driven a C8 once and would not want that as my daily. Again, I drove one for 20 minutes and it didn't not seem that good for everyday use.
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Are you guys really still arguing over this? Neither side has convinced the other side in weeks.
Imagine people on the internet getting mad someone they do not know is calling the C8Z GM's first supercar LOL.
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You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S?
I resemble that remark. I specifically wanted 2S cos i don't want AWD on my dang sports car
It's ok to want to go slower:-) Lol. Just kidding
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LMAO! I've owned a few Vettes.
all well and good, then you should know of the evolutional improvement over the years ! FWIW, I've owned them for over 45 years, probably before you were born !

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The Vette has had performance numbers better than some cars that cost a lot more for a long time. Now the Z actually costs what some of these exotics can be had for. No longer a "bargain". No longer America's affordable sports car.
Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
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Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
You can get a Lotus Emira. I guess it’s ok to call it an exotic…
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Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
Pfff. Forget 100k. Make it 125k and there is still no answer besides the upcoming C8Z. But AGAIN we have to see the performance data otherwise it's just a hyped up version of the stingray with an incredible engine.

But right now, from what we know SO FAR, the C8Z IS the car to get. Well if you can.

670hp, DCT, mid engine, widebody, exotic looks, V8 NA engine that sounds like exotic, backed by a full warranty.

Call it 125k and there is still nothing on the market.

You have yoyo's paying 140k for an M4 CSL.

Ding dong's paying 90-100k for hellcats.

But at 106k, GM's first supercar and people say it's a failure

Can't wait to make everyone drool when i get mine.
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