[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by SW19

The rear was already leaked last summer and it also has some G87 design elements.This car must be designed by the same guy based on the front and rear design.

That defuser is just like XM’s

Same power train

Go figure

[Erebor]

Originally Posted by Autobahn SoCal

If this is the final design it will have a huge air vent in the front like the G87.

Look at all the renders that are out there. They are pretty much spot on. I have seen the car and that's about how it will look. Only minor differences here and there.

[imperfectluck]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

I would only be interested in a touring even though it’s going be $140grand. get one as a CPO when it loses 30% of its value in the first year.. and touring should never lose their value however due to this thing is probably gonna weigh close to over 6000 pounds because of the hybrid powertrain we’ll see

I’m also in the camp of seeing how the initial depreciation of this thing goes to swing my rationale of writing a check because interest rates aren’t as free as they once were.

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by n55f15

The front end of the car. It can be better seen on video. However, I cannot figure out how to attach one

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If it comes out looking this good with nice proportions it success.

The way they went w m3 was sad. M5 nice.

[Evinrude1975]

At this point… I would buy the touring

[AlphaM]

this is bullcrap. the bmw executive already said on video that the M5 grill is identical to i5 M60.
so this render is just junk.

[AbdullahMDM]

Based on the shot from the video it looks much better than I expected from the front..

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by imperfectluck

I’m also in the camp of seeing how the initial depreciation of this thing goes to swing my rationale of writing a check because interest rates aren’t as free as they once were.

I think we can all agree that it will depreciate like a stone. A mass-produced 140k sedan isn’t going to hold its value period. You buy these cars because you want them, not because you are thinking about depreciation. On another note, my biggest gripe with it is the plug in hybrid powertrain. I considered an XM and decided against it because I didn’t like the hybrid. The fact that the new M5 gets the XM’s engine is all I need to hear to know I won’t get one.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

I think we can all agree that it will depreciate like a stone. A mass-produced 140k sedan isn’t going to hold its value period. You buy these cars because you want them, not because you are thinking about depreciation. On another note, my biggest gripe with it is the plug in hybrid powertrain. I considered an XM and decided against it because I didn’t like the hybrid. The fact that the new M5 gets the XM’s engine is all I need to hear to know I won’t get one.

That overly complex engine kills my interest as well. Either stay with ICE or go all in on EV. Don't need both adding in massive weight.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by gblansten

That overly complex engine kills my interest as well. Either stay with ICE or go all in on EV. Don't need both adding in massive weight.

Precisely. I don’t know why manufacturers are thinking complex hybrids are the answer. They don’t save much gas and the added weight kills off much, if not all, of the added power benefit. I recently read that the C63’s 4 cylinder hybrid is such a poor seller that Benz is bringing back the V8. Let’s all boycott this new M5 and they might just follow Benz’s lead and bring back the V8 too.

[KTN]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Precisely. I don’t know why manufacturers are thinking complex hybrids are the answer. They don’t save much gas and the added weight kills off much, if not all, of the added power benefit. I recently read that the C63’s 4 cylinder hybrid is such a poor seller that Benz is bringing back the V8. Let’s all boycott this new M5 and they might just follow Benz’s lead and bring back the V8 too.

The new C63’s image has more to do with it being a 4-cylinder than it being a hybrid. The M5 will still use a V8 in the hybrid setup.

[NotSharocks]

I think someone at BMW said the word innovation once and the design team just went with whatever they had.

Probably also said segment leader too.

Sigh.

[AP]

They are no doubt forced to ensure that their co2 output is below a certain level for the fleet so suspect it’s in there solely for that.
That’s the compromise we’re seeing in there “interim” times with supposedly a ban on ice coming in in 2030 or 2035 where ever you are

There is some backlash with Mercedes Amy clue I think it was that had a mag 4 cylinder engine, not selling well apparently so Mercedes are now putting a v8 back in it

This m5 despite how good it may or may it be will be a compromise

[Remigijus]

Originally Posted by AlphaM

this is bullcrap. the bmw executive already said on video that the M5 grill is identical to i5 M60.
so this render is just junk.

Exactly. Only the difference, at the bottom you can see air vents for intake.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by AP

They are no doubt forced to ensure that their co2 output is below a certain level for the fleet so suspect it’s in there solely for that.

The number of M5s sold combined with the marginal reduction in CO2 will mean an extremely small impact on the fleet numbers.

I suspect they are treating this (and the XM) as “halo car technology showcase” where they throw everything at it but the kitchen sink. An industry “flex” if you will, and the tech developed will trickle down to the mainstream models.

Kinda funny since they’re really not doing anything groundbreaking… unless you count the ground beneath the tires. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Blue Angel

The number of M5s sold combined with the marginal reduction in CO2 will mean an extremely small impact on the fleet numbers.

I suspect they are treating this (and the XM) as “halo car technology showcase” where they throw everything at it but the kitchen sink. An industry “flex” if you will, and the tech developed will trickle down to the mainstream models.

Kinda funny since they’re really not doing anything groundbreaking… unless you count the ground beneath the tires. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

[NSX2M4]

Either make it ICE or make it a plug in. Nobody wants a juiced up German Prius.
The 2016 NSX was a total flop due to a dual complex powertrain.


However, I am curious to see how the new 911 hybrid will be received by consumers.
But again, people buying 911's want ICE.
It's great having options though, no complaints on my end.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

Either make it ICE or make it a plug in. Nobody wants a juiced up German Prius.
The 2016 NSX was a total flop due to a dual complex powertrain.


However, I am curious to see how the new 911 hybrid will be received by consumers.
But again, people buying 911's want ICE.
It's great having options though, no complaints on my end.

I say, do what you will with the daily driver appliances, but leave the enthusiast models and sports cars alone!

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Blue Angel

I say, do what you will with the daily driver appliances, but leave the enthusiast models and sports cars alone!

I love variety. Look what I drive. It's great to have that. Unfortunately this new M5 misses that mark.

[subterFUSE]

It's comical that Merc was still calling the car the C63 when it has gone to a 4 cylinder engine. More like the C23.

[siberius]

Hello!

As promised.Just came from BMW event of reveal of new BMW M5 and X3 M50i.
It was static introduction of both cars and we could walk arround and sit in X3 but not in BMW5 for some kind of unknown reason.

COLOR: MATT SILVER with black parts. Car looks much better from front than current 5 series. Hood is similar like bmw g80 with dent through but not so prominent, maybe due the color choice? but carbon roof was sick, with very noticable dent from far away.. You could see that car is a rocket even before they put the sheet away from it since it was sitting nicely over that roofline..

Lights are identical as with i5.. but front bumper is much wider and gives a good stance.. grill is the same as with i5 m60.. bumper has two steps arround lights.. much better solved than current car.. i think regular car will have this solved in facelift for sure.. bottom grill is similar like a new X3 with some carbon design package as you could have G80 or G82. looks great.. i have a feeling that front grill hugs lights like BMW E92 M3.. very nostalgic feel.. REAR end is the best... very beast, like leaked photos but much more. RS6 looks like a girl end if you compare to this beast.. side view has a side grill but its disappointing with flat same doors as current bmw 5 series.. then other parts look like aftermarket.. but its much more agressive than old bmw m5.. quite nice... engine is same as bmw xm.. interior nothing spectacular.. no carbon seats on this car.. looks like xm.. x3 is bigger suprise.. i think x3m will be better choice..

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

Either make it ICE or make it a plug in.

But... it is a plug-in? :