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      08-13-2024, 08:44 PM   #89
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I don’t really care about fuel efficiency. My daily commute is only a few miles, so well within the EV range.

My father-in-law got in a shootout at a gas station (he is fine, the person that attempted to murder him not so much), so I REALLY don’t like going to get gas in town. Pulling over on a road trip is fine, just would love to reduce gas station visits in the city.
What city is this?? Costco is usually safe haha
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More common in Europe. Practicality, dogs in the back, sleeper look, and amazing performance (no one expects that from wagons). There are fewer of them than sedans. This is due to RS6, AMG wagons or even Volvo back in the day.
Yeah Europe folk are afraid of buying an SUV and a sports car. Only allowed one car by the EU I guess! M5 wagon…what a sleeper. Haha just playing everyone don’t get mad but seriously I struggle.. I don’t know if I like the wagon or not. 9/10 friends I ask say the touring is a “station wagon” in a bad car slur. Maybe the practicality… is just that…addictive.
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      08-13-2024, 09:21 PM   #92
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The RS6 is a far better looking wagon.

Not even close IMO.
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      08-13-2024, 10:42 PM   #97
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Man, was anxiously awaiting this but from the few leaked pictures I think the RS6 looks better. I’ll still hold my judgment until the official reveal though. For everyone like myself who is awaiting this reveal, why not the RS6? Is it just that everyone on here are BMW fanboys so loyal to the brand to make a change (not that there is anything wrong with this)? Or is there something wrong with the RS6? Genuinely curious. For me it’s that I’m waiting for my X5 M50i to come off lease and then I hope to get into a wagon. Still don’t know which one, but by looks alone I’m leaning RS6.
1 1/2 yr RS6 owner here after selling my X5M last year. Can tell you it’s an absolute joy to DD and I look forward to driving every day. Not as track oriented as M cars, but good balance between sportiness, comfort and sheer speed. Much better sounding than any BMW V8 too! I was also anticipating something more exciting with this M5 Touring but it’s not exciting me as much as the RS6 did. Have to mention though that the RS6 interior is very much understated compared to BMWs of today, so choose what works for you.
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      08-13-2024, 11:09 PM   #98
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That shutline where the standard rear door meets the M rear guard is not a good look. Same issue on the G80 also.
I realise BMW are just trying to maximise profit by not producing M specific rear doors but its a really poor decision imo.
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      08-13-2024, 11:30 PM   #99
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Surprisingly well executed and the proportions are spot on compared to the sedan.
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What city is this?? Costco is usually safe haha
His profile says Memphis so I’m not surprised. Don’t stop there for any reason.
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      08-14-2024, 12:06 AM   #102
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Someone posted photos earlier by mistake, that's how it went out.

Expect full video reveal and review on August 15th
I get that but I was under the impression there would be something special coming from M. A station wagon is cool but from the tone of the announcement weeks ago it seemed to indicate something else… maybe I was overly hopeful for something new and cooler then a station wagon.

Maybe there is still something else aside from the M5?
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Why does the grille badge say M3 when zoomed in? Is it just me?
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Yes, the rear one. Not sure about the tiny fronts though.
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Yeah Europe folk are afraid of buying an SUV and a sports car. Only allowed one car by the EU I guess! M5 wagon…what a sleeper. Haha just playing everyone don’t get mad but seriously I struggle.. I don’t know if I like the wagon or not. 9/10 friends I ask say the touring is a “station wagon” in a bad car slur. Maybe the practicality… is just that…addictive.
If you want to buy SUV In Europe - straight to jail. If you want to buy a second car - jail. That's why they are buying tourings

In more seriousness, practicality and performance in one car. Some folks are tuning RS6 up to 1000hp, just for fun.

And for me, most of the time touring/avant or whatever you call it - looks better than sedan.
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It looks bloated in the pic. I hope it’s not like that in person.
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Why does the grille badge say M3 when zoomed in? Is it just me?
It’s M5.
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      08-14-2024, 04:43 AM   #108
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Can’t “weight” to see what this thing hits the scales at. I am thoroughly amazed they didn’t learn any lessons from the XM’s utter failure to sell. The X5M is just as fast, better looking, lighter, more capacious for luggage and costs a ton less. There’s no improvement to claimed performance vs. the current M5 and fuel economy is still going to be abysmal.

If they insist on going PHEV, I would honestly rather see a higher power version of the B58 with about 450WHP (easy to achieve) + dual lightweight axial flow electric motors that each output 100-150HP. The B58 is a more enjoyable engine to me than the S58 because it doesn’t have the huge deficit of power below 3000rpm, and I like the way it sounds a lot better, too. So with a 450HP 3.0T I6 + 2 electric motors, we’re at 650-750HP. I wouldn’t be surprised switching from S68 to B58 shaved a couple hundred lbs out of the nose, too. Less weight means they could cut the size of the battery pack slightly which would further improve efficiency and reduce the weight even more. I like the reliability of the B58 much better than the hot-Vee S68 and it’s super impressive just how efficient the engine is on its own. This is how I would’ve probably gone after the same result. The uprated B58 would also make a nice next gen M340i engine.
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Funny, I plan to sell my RS6 for one. I agree, at least based on these images, the RS6 looks better. But the PHEV aspect for me is a huge plus. My wife has one and we love it.

The RS6 is much more aggressive looking though.
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I don’t really care about fuel efficiency. My daily commute is only a few miles, so well within the EV range.

My father-in-law got in a shootout at a gas station (he is fine, the person that attempted to murder him not so much), so I REALLY don’t like going to get gas in town. Pulling over on a road trip is fine, just would love to reduce gas station visits in the city.

Are you serious? You're failing at life if you are buying a car because you are scared to visit a gas station and aren't focusing on MOVING to a safer place.
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Why does BMW have to force us to my M when wagons are meant to be practical

I think it's purely a ploy on the RS 6 market (Nice car). Wagons are meant to be practical and if they brought over a proper ride height 3 or 5 without all the glitz and lowering I would buy one. The Allroad was a good example however Audi still forced you to by the AR versus a normal Avant. I just saw the M5 sedan in Canada at a dealer and it looked pretty nice.Price tag on this car is prohibitive even in the non M version. Also the weight and size are somewhat prohibitive in my book. Don't force us to buy M versions and give us the option for a practical daily driver.
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