[cheveux]

Hyundai i30n

[freakystyly]

^
Hundai is going places lately..
We will see if the Hyundai RM20 N can make it to market.

[//Melon]

Originally Posted by GenXer

The Alfa-Romeo 4C is such a sports car. It's so sporty that you have to use a funnel to fill your windshield washer fluid. So sporty you have to store any luggage on the passenger seat since there is no front compartment and the back compartment next to the engine is tiny. So sporty that you have to have the dexterity of a seamstress to put up the canvas top. Not so bad during a nice day but hope it doesn't rain. Do they even come with SAT NAV or back up camera yet? So sporty you would gain good upper body strength while maneuvering in a parking lot.

So it's Italian.

[//Melon]

Originally Posted by cheveux

Hyundai i30n

I do wish we got this here.
It looks the part, would be pretty decent to drive and is practical.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by //Melon

I do wish we got this here.
It looks the part, would be pretty decent to drive and is practical.

Apparently we'll be receiving the new Elantra N when it comes out, but I agree, the hatch is much better.

[cheveux]

Originally Posted by //Melon

I do wish we got this here.
It looks the part, would be pretty decent to drive and is practical.

I think they are great.
I am currently thinking of buying an i30n or a megane RS trophy

[Redd]

Originally Posted by cheveux

I think they are great.
I am currently thinking of buying an i30n or a megane RS trophy

The Megane RS is an amazing drive! Definitely try one.

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by Redd

The Megane RS is an amazing drive! Definitely try one.

The Trophy-R is the one to get, this is mine 1 of 250 worldwide.

[Alfisti]

Aussies get everything dammit, some stuff is insanely expensive but you get everything. I do miss those narrow plates too, north american plates are brutally ugly.

[//Melon]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

The Trophy-R is the one to get, this is mine 1 of 250 worldwide.

That's super cool!

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

The Trophy-R is the one to get, this is mine 1 of 250 worldwide.

Wait a minute, if you own that, why are you complaining about not being able to find an enthusiast driver's car...??

[kaputt]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Loaded at an MSRP in the low $60ks is very reasonable. Your average dad mobile 5-series or mommy X5 have higher MSRPs.

That still doesn’t even remotely fall into the “affordable” category.

[TargaM2]

This is where it's at...

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by Darth One

Wait a minute, if you own that, why are you complaining about not being able to find an enthusiast driver's car...??

I have a few toys, my point is that they are becoming a thing of the past due to this approach of manufacturers simply throwing more & more horsepower at ever increasingly sized barges.
The next standout value drivers car worldwide is no doubt the Yaris GR4. Toyota rejoining the WRC has now given us the next EVO/STI replacement. The US will no doubt miss out again on this little gem but fortunately we in OZ are getting both the regular & hardcore versions. The hardcore version due in approx 12 months could very possibly replace my RS275-R (above) as the basis for my next tarmac rally/track toy.
Surprising that it took Toyota to remind others how it's done, considering they haven't made a decent performance car imo since the ST205 Celica GT4 over 20 years ago. Once again shows that Motorsport participation breeds good road cars.

[Alfisti]

YOu need the right roads for low powered, light cars. Miata, FRS etc are fun if you have tight winding roads. Over here it is flat as a tack and dead straight.

[F32Fleet]

They don't make a lot of money for automakers and that pool of buyers is shrinking.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

YOu need the right roads for low powered, light cars. Miata, FRS etc are fun if you have tight winding roads. Over here it is flat as a tack and dead straight.

This is absolutely true. I moved from Dallas, where the long, straight Tollway was the peak of fun. You needed high power to have fun there.

Now I'm in Austin, right turns and winding roads are much better suited to small, light cars, power is largely a secondary concern.

When I was in Southern California there was a pretty good mix of the two, but handling was still preferable. I'd imagine that since most of the country is flat ans boring, that's why heavier, more powerful cars have won out.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by m5theonlyone

off topic.
There's a man called khan in london who's trying to price cars out of the capital...

kaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Red Bread]

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[Moflow]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

Truth be known I have a few toys, my point is that they are becoming a thing of the past due to this approach of manufacturers simply throwing more & more horsepower at ever increasingly sized barges.
The next standout value drivers car worldwide is no doubt the Yaris GR4. Toyota rejoining the WRC has now given us the next EVO/STI replacement. The US will no doubt miss out again on this little gem but fortunately we in OZ are getting both the regular & hardcore versions. The hardcore version due in approx 12 months could very possibly replace my RS275-R (above) as the basis for my next tarmac rally/track toy.
Surprising that it took Toyota to remind others how it's done, considering they haven't made a decent performance car imo since the ST205 Celica GT4 over 20 years ago. Once again shows that Motorsport participation breeds good road cars.

Toyota has confirmed that us Americans will get a Corolla version of the GR4 Yaris, which should still be pretty cool (should share the same drivetrain.)

Still, at that point it's playing in WRX/STi/Evo/Focus RS waters. The Corolla is a 'compact' in america, while the Yaris is very much a sub-compact, which IMHO is a big part of why the GR4 version sounds so cool. Crazy awd turbocharged sub-compacts are not something manufacturers build very often.

Still, i'm just happy we're getting another compact AWD/manual/turbo/sporty car. You never know if this will be the last one. My first car was an ST165, so there's a little bit of fanboy to my opinions surrounding it, but hopefully not too much.

[340iGUY]

Affordable enthusiast peformance cars:
Civic Type R
Mazda Miata

[M5Rick]

Had an MX-5 mk2.5 1.8l (miata) auto, was the best car around bendy roads,next best thing to a go kart. If they had put an S2000 engine in it...