[josec70]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

I did, but not very seriously. A few reasons why the M8 never ranked highly for me:

1. Too similar to the F90 while being considerably more expensive, while simultaneously being less convenient. i.e. a 2 seat car vs. a 5 seat car.

2. I never liked how the M8 looks. The profile is too similar to a Ford Mustang.

3. I also do not like the interior. The console and dash are far more claustrophobic than the F90.

4. I do not like the Gran Coupe as an automotive segment. If I want a sedan then I will buy a sedan that has a useful back seat. Otherwise, get a coupe. I don't need a car that tries to be both while being great at neither.




I ended up buying a 2023 R8 and leasing a 2023 S8.

Makes sense …

I bought my 22’ Individual M5C and spec’d it with just about every option because of my uncertainty regarding what the G90 would be.

Glad I did … not one compelling reason for me to move to a G90 .

After 6 M5’s dating back to my first (E39) this may be the generation I skip or shop another brand. I’m not holding out hope the LCI or CS is better but I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Either way, what a disappointment that this is the best BMW could manage with this M5.

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

The M3/4 with buckets and full leather feels premium, at least initially.

But for approx the same $$ as the M5, the S8 seems like a better buy even considering the inferior handling characteristics. Hate to say it. But it’s simpler, lighter, and feels luxurious. Rear reclining seats and 3.6s to 60mph.

Honestly, the 3 series is just too small for me. I like mid or full size cars for my daily driver, unless I'm getting a dedicated sports car. (like my R8)
I could never drive my friends to dinner in an M3. My buddy is 6'4" and his GF is 6'.

The other subconscious issue for me with the M3/M4 is I perceive them as kids cars. Where I live, you see teenagers driving M4s not adults. My younger brother got his first M3 at age 17.

Although, now that I just turned 46 I'm starting to feel too old for an M5. When I go to cars n coffee it's a bunch of late teens/early 20s kids driving the F90s.

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Nope 4-Zone is not in any package for the American Market. But we should still be able to put in a special order from the factory for the option. Some American customers have already done this for 4-Zone on their G60’s, we just have to wait longer for our cars to get built with it. But no U.S. dealers will have G90 M5’s in their lots with the 4-Zone already special ordered.

US order guide lists 4-zone automatic climate control (code 4NB) as standard.

[subterFUSE]

Good, that's a rather basic feature.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

Honestly, the 3 series is just too small for me. I like mid or full size cars for my daily driver, unless I'm getting a dedicated sports car. (like my R8)
I could never drive my friends to dinner in an M3. My buddy is 6'4" and his GF is 6'.

The other subconscious issue for me with the M3/M4 is I perceive them as kids cars. Where I live, you see teenagers driving M4s not adults. My younger brother got his first M3 at age 17.

Although, now that I just turned 46 I'm starting to feel too old for an M5. When I go to cars n coffee it's a bunch of late teens/early 20s kids driving the F90s.

Gotcha. The 5er seemed to have a smaller back seat than my M3. And as for age, never considered that but currently given the price points I’d say M2 is a bit younger. But it really doesn’t matter to me - I wanted a manual transmission and the M3 fits my 3 kids.

[antzcrashing]

Holy price batman. Wow

[Srichards]

I see a lot of people saying no BW as an option but it comes standard. However, I’m surprised there is no option for full merino leather. Should at least be an option for $100k+ car.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Chas8283

US order guide lists 4-zone automatic climate control (code 4NB) as standard.

I know. I noticed this before and I made a post about it. It seems confusing though, now that the Configurator is up and running. Given what else this generation of M5 is missing. I am going to err on the side of caution and say that the G90 M5 is not going to come with 4-Zone for the U.S. Market for now. We will get confirmation when the first U.S. M5's hit these shores in November.

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Gotcha. The 5er seemed to have a smaller back seat than my M3. And as for age, never considered that but currently given the price points I’d say M2 is a bit younger. But it really doesn’t matter to me - I wanted a manual transmission and the M3 fits my 3 kids.

Like I said, it might just be a regional thing where I live. But I only see high school kids driving in M3 or M4.

[Mrproper86]

Originally Posted by XM Label

Grille can be turned off….but why? It looks awesome at night.

Agree, Love the glowing grill on my wifes 7.

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I know. I noticed this before and I made a post about it. It seems confusing though, now that the Configurator is up and running. Given what else this generation of M5 is missing. I am going to err on the side of caution and say that the G90 M5 is not going to come with 4-Zone for the U.S. Market for now. We will get confirmation when the first U.S. M5's hit these shores in November.

Yeah, for sure. I also thought it was not included based on configurator and the decontent-ing. I’m still hopeful as bugs and mistakes seem fairly common with the configurators when they roll out a new product.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I know. I noticed this before and I made a post about it. It seems confusing though, now that the Configurator is up and running. Given what else this generation of M5 is missing. I am going to err on the side of caution and say that the G90 M5 is not going to come with 4-Zone for the U.S. Market for now. We will get confirmation when the first U.S. M5's hit these shores in November.

The BMW USA configurators are notorious for having errors/issues/bugs when first rolling out new models. If the order guide says it’s standard, then it will be there.

[DocOfTheDead]

Originally Posted by Srichards

I see a lot of people saying no BW as an option but it comes standard. However, I’m surprised there is no option for full merino leather. Should at least be an option for $100k+ car.

Again. It’s not about the brand name. It’s about the tier of stereo. The B&W in the 5 is a far cry from the previous B&W Diamond system.

[BigMoh]

I have a deposit down for the G90, coming from G26 M440 GC. Not 100% committed but leaning toward yes.

Was really hoping they would have Dravit on the launch color list... ugh.

Does anyone know if BMW offers the MPE for the M5, or is the stock exhaust technically MPE? I need to make sure my car is loud enough to offset the silence from all the EVs invading my town.

[CarlosM4]

I was impressed with the standard equipment and my build price, it is very reasonable.

You guys are lucky in the US, the M5 is pretty well priced for you and makes a lot of sense compared to the other PHEV Sedans (although the weight is still a joke).

Still a shame to see no more Full leather Merino, Soft Close Doors, Rear Comfort Access, and worsened B&W sound

[nawktrebor]

Getting excited and loving the look!

[FSHNGRY]

Originally Posted by subterFUSE

I did, but not very seriously. A few reasons why the M8 never ranked highly for me:

1. Too similar to the F90 while being considerably more expensive, while simultaneously being less convenient. i.e. a 2 seat car vs. a 5 seat car.

2. I never liked how the M8 looks. The profile is too similar to a Ford Mustang.

3. I also do not like the interior. The console and dash are far more claustrophobic than the F90.

4. I do not like the Gran Coupe as an automotive segment. If I want a sedan then I will buy a sedan that has a useful back seat. Otherwise, get a coupe. I don't need a car that tries to be both while being great at neither.




I ended up buying a 2023 R8 and leasing a 2023 S8.

1. If you dont need the rear seats - looks far more menacing

2. to each his own

3. Im a huge fan of the interior and far more jealous of the details available

4. Put the grancoupe in the parking alot - the coupe is awesome and way more detail orientated.


5. Audi makes great cars - but back to point 2.

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

they aren’t. they’re for folks who are seriously tracking, and don’t want to go with upgraded aftermarkets, or who want to post them on IG, or who don’t want to deal with brake dust. insane option otherwise, and ive never spec’d them on an M

M5? tracking?

[cipher5]

No upgraded sound? No unique colors? So much yawn.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

The M3/4 with buckets and full leather feels premium, at least initially.

But for approx the same $$ as the M5, the S8 seems like a better buy even considering the inferior handling characteristics. Hate to say it. But it’s simpler, lighter, and feels luxurious. Rear reclining seats and 3.6s to 60mph.

Better lease that Audi or it will own you

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Better lease that Audi or it will own you

Current S8 promos are 0.99%/60 mo. no money down or $10k off purchase or lease. Hard to beat that when cash is earning 6% interest.
And the M5 will also drop like a rock.

[pookiemalibu]

Will this qualify for an EV credit like the i7 or is it not "electric enough"?