What happened to affordable true enthusiasts performance cars?

TargaM2 · 11-05-2020, 02:47 PM

Real performance sports car...

stein_325i · 11-10-2020, 04:01 PM

New Elantra N coming soon. Looks to be a nice and affordable fun car for enthusiasts. 2.0T I4, 276HP, 289 TQ, LSD and 6MT/8DCT, and developed by Albert Biernmann.

c72k · 11-10-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jstein55

New Elantra N coming soon. Looks to be a nice and affordable fun car for enthusiasts. 2.0T I4, 276HP, 289 TQ, LSD and 6MT/8DCT, and developed by Albert Biernmann.

This and the sonata N/Kia GT with the DCT look promising, especially with a good sized boot and rear seat

freakystyly · 11-10-2020, 05:09 PM

The price point for the Elantra N will make or break... do you see it coming in cheaper than the Veloster N? At those prices the FWD 2 series is almost in competition.

stein_325i · 11-10-2020, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freakystyly

The price point for the Elantra N will make or break... do you see it coming in cheaper than the Veloster N? At those prices the FWD 2 series is almost in competition.

I'd honestly take a Mazda 3 or Elantra N over a 2GC. My father had one as a loaner, very unimpressive car in both looks, handling, interior, etc. But then again, it has the right badge...

..Rush.. · 11-10-2020, 06:41 PM

Yeah, alot of people that I know rave about the Veloster N

kaputt · 11-10-2020, 11:18 PM

I test drove a Veloster N and the drive was incredible. The interior was hot garbage though. I certainly don’t need a luxury interior, but EVERYTHING was hard plastic, even where you put your elbow on the door rest.

Hopefully the Elantra gets some softer touch plastics. It doesn’t need much, but the Veloster was just a bit too cheap.

TargaM2 · 11-11-2020, 02:55 AM

Real performance hot hatch...

freakystyly · 11-11-2020, 08:34 AM

Yeah, the Yaris GR would be sweet if it came to North America. It looks like we will get the larger Corolla GR instead with the same 1.6L I3 w/ AWD.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/

Something RWD would be nice tho... the BRZ/GT86 with a 1.6L tuned within an inch of it's life might be a fun lightweight car if they could put it in longitudinally.

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stein_325i Ring Leader of G8X Haters 25297 Rep 8,764 Posts Drives: A Car Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: All-Around iTrader: (0)	New Elantra N coming soon. Looks to be a nice and affordable fun car for enthusiasts. 2.0T I4, 276HP, 289 TQ, LSD and 6MT/8DCT, and developed by Albert Biernmann. Attached Images
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freakystyly Colonel 3622 Rep 2,017 Posts Drives: F22 B58 6MT Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	The price point for the Elantra N will make or break... do you see it coming in cheaper than the Veloster N? At those prices the FWD 2 series is almost in competition.
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..Rush.. Captain 981 Rep 928 Posts Drives: AW E88 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Yeah, alot of people that I know rave about the Veloster N
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kaputt Captain 686 Rep 648 Posts Drives: 128i 6MT - sold Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: TX -> CA iTrader: (1)	I test drove a Veloster N and the drive was incredible. The interior was hot garbage though. I certainly don’t need a luxury interior, but EVERYTHING was hard plastic, even where you put your elbow on the door rest. Hopefully the Elantra gets some softer touch plastics. It doesn’t need much, but the Veloster was just a bit too cheap.
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freakystyly Colonel 3622 Rep 2,017 Posts Drives: F22 B58 6MT Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	Yeah, the Yaris GR would be sweet if it came to North America. It looks like we will get the larger Corolla GR instead with the same 1.6L I3 w/ AWD. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/ Something RWD would be nice tho... the BRZ/GT86 with a 1.6L tuned within an inch of it's life might be a fun lightweight car if they could put it in longitudinally.
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