[Geo_FF]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

Cmon it's no worse looking than the soft and feminine previous 2

Looks are subjective for sure, but like many have said (also with the M3/4) it's like you have to talk yourself into liking, or living with the design. I can't swallow that pill, and if I'm spending that much on any car it has to be love at first sight.

I'm just not feeling the busy front end with triangles, and the taillights that are too low and outward like someone with eye too far apart lol.

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by Geo_M240i

Looks are subjective for sure, but like many have said (also with the M3/4) it's like you have to talk yourself into liking, or living with the design. I can't swallow that pill, and if I'm spending that much on any car it has to be love at first sight.

I'm just not feeling the busy front end with triangles, and the taillights that are too low and outward like someone with eye too far apart lol.

Definitely

I had to talk myself into liking my m2c not going to lie.

I was more interested in the performance/experience it offered tbh.

I buy cars for being capable rather than beautiful.

If it was the other way around I'd be an AMG guy without a doubt.

[tracer bullet]

I think everyone's focused on the wrong stuff.

* How much weight can be saved going RWD instead of AWD, with 6MT instead of auto
* How's the e-diff going to behave
* What's the steering feel
* What's the biggest tire that can actually fit up front
* Squishy subframe bushings or not

And yeah, maybe someone will make new front or rear bumpers that can be painted and bolted on, without them going some hideous direction on their own. But it's not really what's important...

[Geo_FF]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

Definitely

I had to talk myself into liking my m2c not going to lie.

I was more interested in the performance/experience it offered tbh.

I buy cars for being capable rather than beautiful.

If it was the other way around I'd be an AMG guy without a doubt.

I totally get that and everyone is going to have their own check boxes and degrees to which they are willing to compromise. The driving and performance is important to me as well, but the design language is making me compromise waaay too much for (my) liking.

[Wheelwright]

I am not sold on the looks, but the new M2 version may still turn out to be my next car. The reason is that I am at an age where you buy more with your mind than your heart. As long as any car offers good value, great performance, is compact, yet practical with good all-around visibility, it goes to the top of my list. Also a manual transmission is a must for me, and no front-drive cars qualify, because of their inherently inferior driving dynamics. Unfortunately my criteria leave me with only 2 meaningful choices: the upcoming Nissan Z or M2. The overly stylized looks of the new 2 are not enough of a deterrent, and I hope I will like the car better in M2 guise.

[Bingham]

Agreed WW ^^^^

I’ll reserve final judgement and my potential next purchase post M2 next gen release and the eventual release of the nismo 240z.

Could also be a few low mileage M2 CS’s in the mkt at that point.

And my gosh, so hard to be all things to all people…wut a fickle & spoiled species we are.

Be well. Buy and drive wut u like- the rest is just noise and mktg.

B.

[twin fed]

when is the LCI?

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

You probably still wear a members only jacket

Yes, me and the rest of the old boys club are the guys pointing and laughing at the abomination that is the front end of your G82.

Enjoy resale.

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by Sjokosaus

Seems to me that you're the one drinking the kool-aid, hating on a great looking car with clean lines just because it's become popular to hate on modern BMWs.

The side profile is good, the rest of the car is absolute trash. Clean lines? Have you seen the rear bumper? Or the random box flare on the front wheel arch yet the rear is gracefully blended into the rear quarter. Get a clue.

It's sad when 90% of BMWs line up has to be bought in black to minimize the design team's placement of random cuts and bends in the sheet metal. Domagoj Dukec should be taken out back and shot in the head.

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

Yes, me and the rest of the old boys club are the guys pointing and laughing at the abomination that is the front end of your G82.

Enjoy resale.

Lol good luck seeing the front end in any situation other than a car show bubers

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

Lol good luck seeing the front end in any situation other than a car show bubers

That is an utterly baffling response and/or justification for bad design. You racing for pinks or something on the weekends?


Also my RS6 says otherwise. There's always someone faster.

[BimmerTom94]

I seen the 2 series models to, the 220d M sport caught my eye.

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

That is an utterly baffling response and/or justification for bad design. You racing for pinks or something on the weekends?


Also my RS6 says otherwise. There's always someone faster.

Ok enjoy your relevant opinion jacket boy

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

It's sad when 90% of BMWs line up has to be bought in black to minimize the design team's placement of random cuts and bends in the sheet metal. Domagoj Dukec should be taken out back and shot in the head.

Look, personally I made no secret on Bimmerpost of having mixed views about oversized kidney grilles and a redesigned Hofmeister kink on recent BMW cars.

But your comment about Domagoj Đukec to "be taken out back and shot in the head" is totally unacceptable.

Feel free to agree or disagree with his work, but, as each of us, Đukec is a human being entitled to unconditional respect. Although I am no moderator of this Bimmerpost section, I will stand firm on this stony ground to protect also Đukec against your kind of hate speech over here, just the way that I will also do for you if someone would utter something similar about you or anyone else over here. Đukec did not commit any crime whatsoever. The team spearheaded by him just did its job the way they deemed appropriate for some recent BMW cars, without breaking any law. No-one obliges you to like or dislike their designs, and free speech will allow you to express your views about it. But free speech ain't unlimited.

Likely backpedaling afterwards that your statement was 'of course just a way of saying' or the like, will not make your statement any less abhorrent and disgraceful. Shame on you.

[O5E46M3]

Man these forums get salty every new generation, I wish I could find my old login when the E92 replaced the E46 those discussions were hilarious.

[Sjokosaus]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

The side profile is good, the rest of the car is absolute trash. Clean lines? Have you seen the rear bumper? Or the random box flare on the front wheel arch yet the rear is gracefully blended into the rear quarter. Get a clue.

It's sad when 90% of BMWs line up has to be bought in black to minimize the design team's placement of random cuts and bends in the sheet metal. Domagoj Dukec should be taken out back and shot in the head.

You're acting as if there's some pre-made form to all cars, if that was the case everything would be identical, but its not. The F22 design is way too flat and formal, it looks boring, especially the front, the rear bumper is also just way too tall in proportion to the trunk lid. The G42 somewhat fixes that with a shorter bumper but unfortunately reverses that with a trunk lid that's too tall. The F87 M2 design differences definitely transforms the car though.


To me the G42 is the better looking car, the front is much more aggressive without being overstyled, it also has much wider fenders which does the car wonders making it almost look like an M car. The rear falls in the same category as the F22, not terrible looking, but certainly not the prefered angle of the car. The G42 design is more successful than the boring F22. The G87 with quad exhaust pipes and redesigned rear bumper is going to improve the rear end massively. That coupled with an even more aggressive front end and hopefully wider fenders will make it look stunning.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Just to chime in on the looks…..

I was at Goodwood and spent some time taking in the views on this car. I'm an ex F22 M240i owner and currently own an M2C F87.

Seeing the same pictures as everyone else I too was sceptical, but I must say, seeing it in person has changed my opinion.

I'd say give it a chance.

If this had a 6MT id buy it today

[xugator]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

That is an utterly baffling response and/or justification for bad design. You racing for pinks or something on the weekends?


Also my RS6 says otherwise. There's always someone faster.

Find it funny that someone who drives an RS6 which is one of the most hideous cars on the road , a glorified station wagon basically, is critiquing the design on the G42

Hate to break it to you but the G42 looks 100 times better than your car. The RS6 looks like something out of the 80s and that my grandma would drive. Basically the modern day Chevy chase car from national lampoons vacation. You aren’t turning any heads in that thing , that is for sure so it’s probably a compliment that you think the G42 is trash.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by xugator

Find it funny that someone who drives an RS6 which is one of the most hideous cars on the road , a glorified station wagon basically, is critiquing the design on the G42

Hate to break it to you but the G42 looks 100 times better than your car. The RS6 looks like something out of the 80s and that my grandma would drive. Basically the modern day Chevy chase car from national lampoons vacation. You aren’t turning any heads in that thing , that is for sure so it’s probably a compliment that you think the G42 is trash.

The RS6 is a good SUV alternative. It is different.

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by RPM33

The RS6 is a good SUV alternative. It is different.

Although I'm not a fan of station wagons I do think the RS6 is the best looking one ever made.