2025 BMW M5 Touring World Premiere

subterFUSE · 08-16-2024, 04:37 PM

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Honestly with all these techy cars I usually go for leasing instead of owning. Never have to worry about out of pocket repairs and don’t have to baby the car. Drive them like I stole them. At least that is what I did with my last two cars.

Only reason I bought my recent car is because post Covid the lease numbers sucked bad.

My next car will most likely be a lease again.

Yup. It's like Leo DiCaprio and his girlfriends. He dates the 21 year old supermodels and dumps them for a younger one before they turn 24.

dds007 · 08-16-2024, 07:37 PM

This the new x1?

soulsea · 08-16-2024, 07:48 PM

Here's the thing ...

If you're going to stop the back window from independently flopping up (which I care zero about) then why are are you not hiding the windshield wiper under the rear spoiler?

But no, you've integrated the design and technology from a 70s Volvo wagon.

And yes these things bother me.

chicagofan00 · 08-16-2024, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by soulsea

Here's the thing ...

If you're going to stop the back window from independently flopping up (which I care zero about) then why are are you not hiding the windshield wiper under the rear spoiler?

But no, you've integrated the design and technology from a 70s Volvo wagon.

And yes these things bother me.

Not being able to open up the back window is a pretty big miss on the whole utility aspect of a wagon. Not sure what they were thinking here.

marcw · 08-17-2024, 12:50 AM

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Buy a used GTC4Lusso instead of this
My guess is your cost per month after 3-4 years will be the same but the Ferrari will bring many more smiles.

Even a “cheap” used GTC4Lusso will run you $200k. Comparing apples to oranges.

Year's_End · 08-17-2024, 01:12 AM

what a stunningly fat looking beast

such a fattie fat face

LOW4LYF · 08-17-2024, 01:44 AM

As much as I love Tourings, it is a shame that an AMG S Class is much faster than this!

bavarianboar · 08-17-2024, 03:30 AM

Watch till the end , how we feel about the G90 M5

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9iLw...RlODBiNWFlZA==

WWM3 · 08-17-2024, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Not being able to open up the back window is a pretty big miss on the whole utility aspect of a wagon. Not sure what they were thinking here.

I believe they were thinking about saving money. The same can be said about so many decisions with this car and the new 5 series IMO.

G MONEY · 08-17-2024, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Not being able to open up the back window is a pretty big miss on the whole utility aspect of a wagon. Not sure what they were thinking here.

This and how in the fuck does the glass roof not open!?!? To me, that is totally unacceptable. My brother had an RS6 from Turo the other week. Amazing car and with all the glass open up top, pure happiness. Total total fail on BMW if this is true

josec70 · 08-17-2024, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bavarianboar

Watch till the end , how we feel about the G90 M5

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9iLw...RlODBiNWFlZA==

LMFAO!

asif163 · 08-17-2024, 01:46 PM

This M5 Touring in Alpine White, Brooklyn Grey or the Matte Black, lowered a little with aftermarket springs, and with 1000M gold wheels would look strikingly good. Anyone care to render? That would be my build, if I don’t opt for the RS6 Avant.

chicagofan00 · 08-17-2024, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WWM3

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Not being able to open up the back window is a pretty big miss on the whole utility aspect of a wagon. Not sure what they were thinking here.

I believe they were thinking about saving money. The same can be said about so many decisions with this car and the new 5 series IMO.

Agree. A shame to see so much cost cutting being done as of late.

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Originally Posted by G MONEY

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Not being able to open up the back window is a pretty big miss on the whole utility aspect of a wagon. Not sure what they were thinking here.

This and how in the fuck does the glass roof not open!?!? To me, that is totally unacceptable. My brother had an RS6 from Turo the other week. Amazing car and with all the glass open up top, pure happiness. Total total fail on BMW if this is true

I’m not as bothered about the glass roof not opening as I don’t open the sun roof on my vehicles all that much to begin with but I can definitely understand that it would bother people as it is a bit of a waste to have all that glass and not being able to open a portion of it.

bavarianboar · 08-17-2024, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WWM3

I believe they were thinking about saving money. The same can be said about so many decisions with this car and the new 5 series IMO.

The answer to me is simple, they were trying to save weight on an already heavy car. Another extra 100lbs maybe for mechanism and the roof?

Not sure what’s going on these days with their priorities, I bet there is a lot of tussle and politics within the teams making these decisions, can’t imagine all are happy and proud to have built feature-missing monsters.

WWM3 · 08-17-2024, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bavarianboar

The answer to me is simple, they were trying to save weight on an already heavy car. Another extra 100lbs maybe for mechanism and the roof?

Not sure what’s going on these days with their priorities, I bet there is a lot of tussle and politics within the teams making these decisions, can’t imagine all are happy and proud to have built feature-missing monsters.

I was referencing the fact that the glass on the rear door/hatch doesn’t open. No weight savings from skipping that feature, obviously.

Bimmerfun82 · 08-17-2024, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bavarianboar

The answer to me is simple, they were trying to save weight on an already heavy car. Another extra 100lbs maybe for mechanism and the roof?

Not sure what’s going on these days with their priorities, I bet there is a lot of tussle and politics within the teams making these decisions, can’t imagine all are happy and proud to have built feature-missing monsters.

I agree with this. It all goes back to minimizing taxes and penalties for carbon credits or lack thereof. The incentives are misguided because this car is definitely worse for the environment.

Do you know if it’s an eclipsing roof like the iXM60 where it can cloud at the touch of a button or does it have a mesh screen that scrolls out, or neither?

subterFUSE · 08-17-2024, 04:18 PM

Rear glass not opening separately from the tailgate does not bother me. Honestly, I think it's better because it's less likely to leak or fail.

Also don't care about the roof not opening since I never open them anyway. Too damned hot where I live for that.

I do wish the carbon roof was available.

But, all this is moot since I think the RS6 is better anyway.

sbc-yyc · 08-17-2024, 04:51 PM

Yuck. Fat, slow, minuscule EV-only range and that god-awful Kia looking front end. Hard pass. Get f***ed BMW.

carseatsm5 · 08-18-2024, 12:29 AM

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Monterey auto week

Wow the car is really huge

Bimmerfun82 · 08-18-2024, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by carseatsm5

Wow the car is really huge

Longer than a Range Rover by about 2 inches

carseatsm5 · 08-18-2024, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Longer than a Range Rover by about 2 inches

Seeing it from a distance with people and other cars around it really lets you understand the scale. It’s a big SUV.

CarlosM4 · 08-18-2024, 03:18 PM

The new G60 is enormous. The previous G30 was already gigantic.

It was obvious an M5 Touring (with the bigger arches, and more aggressive stance) was going to be massive. My gripe with it is on the powertrain and weight department.

I like the looks of the M5 Touring, not as good as the RS6 Avant (but that is pretty much the prettiest state ever, and one of the best looking cars of all time), but its definitely pretty, has some nice angles, and definitely has sex appeal over the Sedan.

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asif163 Captain 160 Rep 853 Posts Drives: '14 991.1 911 4S, '23 X7 LCI Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montclair, NJ iTrader: (0)	This M5 Touring in Alpine White, Brooklyn Grey or the Matte Black, lowered a little with aftermarket springs, and with 1000M gold wheels would look strikingly good. Anyone care to render? That would be my build, if I don’t opt for the RS6 Avant. __________________ 2019 M5 Competition / Acquired: 04.12.2021 2020 VW Atlas / Acquired 03.15.2020 2023 X7 M-Sport / Acquired: 11.19.2022 Retired: 2011 E90 ZCP M3, 2014 Range Rover Sport, 2006 Audi S4 V8, 2011 E92 ZCP M3, 2011 BMW X3, 2009 Infiniti G37S Coupe, 2006 Audi A4 S-Line 2.0T, 2008 E92 335i, 2005.5 Audi S4 V8, 1990 E30 325is
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