All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut

OkieSnuffBox · 12-06-2021, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Donatello.

40k+ for this lol

So don't buy one. All your posts are just dogging other cars, nothing better to do?

Burrcold · 12-06-2021, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

So don't buy one. All your posts are just dogging other cars, nothing better to do?

He's a troll through and through. Because his Hellcat buyout is $40k or something like, he measures every new vehicle price and hp against it. So dumb.

heavyD^2 · 12-06-2021, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

He's a troll through and through. Because his Hellcat buyout is $40k or something like, he measures every new vehicle price and hp against it. So dumb.

Ironically this Z car may be the only other new car available on a chassis as old as the one the Hellcat is built on.

Ricochet48 · 12-07-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Donatello.

40k+ for this lol

It's an absolute steal for 400hp & a 6MT. Even spec'd up with the nicer leather interior (with very bold color options) & the sport package it'll be ~$10K cheaper than the Supra. It's basically a 370z with a body kit, upgraded interior, and the Red Sport motor... they are not hiding how they are keeping the price down.

If I didn't need a rear seat for emergencies, I would be all over it. Instead I plan to go for the Supra with rear seats, aka the G42 M240i.

kyriian · 12-07-2021, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricochet48

It's an absolute steal for 400hp & a 6MT. Even spec'd up with the nicer leather interior (with very bold color options) & the sport package it'll be ~$10K cheaper than the Supra. It's basically a 370z with a body kit, upgraded interior, and the Red Sport motor... they are not hiding how they are keeping the price down.

If I didn't need a rear seat for emergencies, I would be all over it. Instead I plan to go for the Supra with rear seats, aka the G42 M240i.

Don't feed the troll, he owns a hellcat so everything sounds slow to him.

SickGTR · 12-07-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kyriian

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Originally Posted by Ricochet48

It's an absolute steal for 400hp & a 6MT. Even spec'd up with the nicer leather interior (with very bold color options) & the sport package it'll be ~$10K cheaper than the Supra. It's basically a 370z with a body kit, upgraded interior, and the Red Sport motor... they are not hiding how they are keeping the price down.

If I didn't need a rear seat for emergencies, I would be all over it. Instead I plan to go for the Supra with rear seats, aka the G42 M240i.

Don't feed the troll, he owns a hellcat so everything sounds slow to him.

I love seeing Hellcats when I'm in my GTR. Everyone who owns one thinks they are just the fastest thing on the road. Just cause your shit is loud, doesn't mean dick. Like Mustang owners back in the day. Just put bus lengths on them and laugh.

supra93 · 12-07-2021, 09:34 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...est-video.678/

stevenopoly · 12-08-2021, 03:42 AM

man this looks way better than any of the new bmw designs coming out.

OkieSnuffBox · 12-08-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...est-video.678/

Waiting for final specs/price/options for this is why I haven't bought a new BRZ yet.

Ultimateone · 12-08-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenopoly

man this looks way better than any of the new bmw designs coming out.

maxdriver · 12-08-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...est-video.678/

Looks amazing. So many interesting Japanese options coming our way in the next year.

stein_325i · 12-08-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...est-video.678/

Looks really good here in this more understated color. They really nailed the retro-modern design.

Burrcold · 12-08-2021, 06:32 PM

Yeah I love it in this color as well.

kyriian · 12-09-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SickGTR

I love seeing Hellcats when I'm in my GTR. Everyone who owns one thinks they are just the fastest thing on the road. Just cause your shit is loud, doesn't mean dick. Like Mustang owners back in the day. Just put bus lengths on them and laugh.

I think its most Challenger owners, even V6 ones like to pretend every stop light is a drag strip...

Well done buddy you out accelerated my 4 cylinder econobox daily driver.

R N M · 12-09-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Waiting for final specs/price/options for this is why I haven't bought a new BRZ yet.

I’m leaning towards the Z with the blue on blue color spec.
I just hope it drives well in terms of steering and MT.

New BRZ / 86 still would need many mods to bring them to what the Z is stock in terms of looks and performance.

SickGTR · 12-09-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kyriian

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Originally Posted by SickGTR

I love seeing Hellcats when I'm in my GTR. Everyone who owns one thinks they are just the fastest thing on the road. Just cause your shit is loud, doesn't mean dick. Like Mustang owners back in the day. Just put bus lengths on them and laugh.

I think its most Challenger owners, even V6 ones like to pretend every stop light is a drag strip...

Well done buddy you out accelerated my 4 cylinder econobox daily driver.

You can add those clowns to the list also. Lol

heavyD^2 · 12-10-2021, 09:57 AM

I want cars like this to continue to be produced so I hope it does a lot better than the 370Z but I still think the car looks dated inside and out and will probably not be a car that ages very well (easy to say I suppose considering it's already 20 years old under the skin). It's going to boil down to how much you liked the 370Z as they didn't make any significant suspension changes so the engine is really the only thing that's going to differentiate the experience. I just didn't think driving the 370Z was a great experience but part of that was due to the lack of refinement of the VQ37 so maybe the new engine can cover a lot of the old flaws.

OkieSnuffBox · 12-10-2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by R N M

I’m leaning towards the Z with the blue on blue color spec.
I just hope it drives well in terms of steering and MT.

New BRZ / 86 still would need many mods to bring them to what the Z is stock in terms of looks and performance.

Well, yeah. If you consider the Performance trim for the Z is likely to be north of $45k.......it's not really fair to compare a $30k 4cyl "sports car" to a $45k+ twin turbo V6 "sports/GT car."

Although, according to early dynos, it seems as though Subaru underrated the new engine. It's rated at 228hp, but many seem to be in the 212-220whp range. And with peak tq coming in at 3600 vs 6000 like the 1st gen it has a much wider powerband.

A catless header + solid E85 tune could bring the car up into the ~245whp range, which is pretty good for a 2800 lb car. And the cars are pretty easy to get weight out of with sacrificing creature comforts.

Just an AP Sprint front BBK, lightweight battery, and rear seat delete are good for 70-80 lbs in weight reduction.

kyriian · 12-10-2021, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by R N M

I just hope it drives well in terms of steering and MT.

If those are your metrics, you WILL most likely be disappointed, ask me how I know, if it does end up being a simple re-dressed 370Z with a new motor.

Donatello. · 12-10-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

He's a troll through and through. Because his Hellcat buyout is $40k or something like, he measures every new vehicle price and hp against it. So dumb.

Lol You keep making up nonsense. Have a good day

Burrcold · 12-10-2021, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello.

Lol You keep making up nonsense. Have a good day

supra93 · 12-10-2021, 08:53 PM

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heavyD^2 Colonel 3726 Rep 2,989 Posts Drives: X3M Competition Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Too close to Santa iTrader: (0)	I want cars like this to continue to be produced so I hope it does a lot better than the 370Z but I still think the car looks dated inside and out and will probably not be a car that ages very well (easy to say I suppose considering it's already 20 years old under the skin). It's going to boil down to how much you liked the 370Z as they didn't make any significant suspension changes so the engine is really the only thing that's going to differentiate the experience. I just didn't think driving the 370Z was a great experience but part of that was due to the lack of refinement of the VQ37 so maybe the new engine can cover a lot of the old flaws.
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