2023 3.0 CSL BMW prototype spied from every angle [updated with Nurburgring video]

Tallest · 07-24-2022, 04:05 AM

Looks like a heavy beast!

KoenG · 07-24-2022, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JCZ5

People who purchase these cars already have "everything". The cost is irrelevant to them. Saying it another way, how many extremely limited cars (50 examples) can you get for that money? Not much as most hyper limited cars are much more expensive…

You refer to 95% hypercars that use 5% "normal" production parts, this is a 95% M4 Csl that uses 5% specific parts. No way you can compare the first ones with a dressed up production car.

Besides, for less money you can buy a perfect exclusive GTB296 or Artura that drive better. Also spectators will have no doubt that they cost much more than this (while they are only half the price).

Nevertheless, the 50 will probably be sold out very fast, based on the decadence of the very rich. Some of them as the first car of the 17yr old son, since dad prefers his Chiron.

antzcrashing · 07-24-2022, 10:53 AM

Does anyone feel that bmw is going to do a grill like this for next gen M3/M4? It would feel like going backwards given the current large grill. Tbh I don't even like it more

Sedan_Clan · 07-24-2022, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Does anyone feel that bmw is going to do a grill like this for next gen M3/M4? It would feel like going backwards given the current large grill. Tbh I don't even like it more

Naw! This is just a Homage car.

GTS Daddy · 07-24-2022, 11:18 AM

Grill envy.

M340i Pride · 07-25-2022, 12:42 AM

Sorry, this is besides the point, but is that a minivan on 0:45-0:49? lol

Highlander-M4 · 07-25-2022, 09:25 AM

At that price range you expect classy design and …double A Arms. This is too Fast and Furious in design and function for this price segment

10" · 07-25-2022, 09:30 AM

there are a lot of secrets under all this camo—-mostly derived stuff from the 3.0CSL Hommage but clearly enough to warrant a custom coach builder.

Also notice the big loopy rear fender things joins up to meet the rear spoiler similarly to the concept.

Will be interested to see the final product, even though the Hommage had way more classic proportions and lines than this.

See orange the blue lines pointing to some things not so easily seen.

Chicane_ · 07-25-2022, 10:23 AM

I wish the CSL had used this wheel design.

Too__Hu///Mble · 07-25-2022, 01:53 PM

This car is gonna be a version in between the M8 and M4?

What's the price target and driving target?

Basically how does this car differentiate itself from the range?

swagon · 07-25-2022, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 10"

there are a lot of secrets under all this camo—-mostly derived stuff from the 3.0CSL Hommage but clearly enough to warrant a custom coach builder.

Also notice the big loopy rear fender things joins up to meet the rear spoiler similarly to the concept.

Will be interested to see the final product, even though the Hommage had way more classic proportions and lines than this.

See orange the blue lines pointing to some things not so easily seen.

I think the body - despite shared with G82 - is going look very different with all panels being bespoke. The camo is indeed hiding a lot of details.

I don't know if it is internal or not, but at the given production numbers, it is basically a coach build... plus all the certifications (although could be eligible for small series approval?), tooling, margins, etc., yeah, ain't surprising it's expensive.

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 07-26-2022, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sublime00

What if the LCI cars get the new grill? Lol.

Lots of people will collectively lose their shit.

I fully agree... !

mbanck · 07-26-2022, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Too__Hu///Mble

This car is gonna be a version in between the M8 and M4?

Size-wise, it's going to be like the m4.

Quote:

What's the price target and driving target?

The price target is unicorn/unobtainium (>500k USD, 50 units worldwide, all apparently sold already). What's a driving target?

Quote:

Basically how does this car differentiate itself from the range?

What range?

ChrisM4 · 07-28-2022, 11:56 AM

Wonder if they did a CDV delete….

In all seriousness I'm interested to hear what changes they've made to the trans/clutch (If any) for this power level.

I still think the car looks odd, I actually prefer the M4 front end to this. (I am biased as a BSM, manual M4 owner though)

MadBimmeRad · 07-29-2022, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

Here it with the camo removed....

Hey, you better watch it, that car was manufactured in Adelaide, South Australia

Nothing wrong with Germans learning from Aussies 🤣🤣🤣

n55f15 · 07-31-2022, 11:49 AM

ID7

swagon · 08-01-2022, 05:58 AM

Centerlocks...

TheBingoBalls · 08-01-2022, 07:34 PM

Not a fan of the M4-production taillights on this model and doesn't look like it's going to have the front wings like the concept.

Sedan_Clan · 08-07-2022, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Centerlocks...

[IMG]http://abload.de/img/2538df4c-458b-4ff5-aqojf3.jpeg[/IMG]

One of the cooler aspects of this car.

swagon · 08-08-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

One of the cooler aspects of this car.

So far, it seems really bespoke, considering they're a huge corporation and not some sports car manufacture. I'm excited to see it!

Jason · 10-18-2022, 09:38 AM

Latest spy video during industry pool testing day.

MadBimmeRad · 10-18-2022, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Latest spy video during industry pool testing day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VytNKqZva0

I wonder what lap times it would have achieved

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