[OneRib]

Just curious as to the methodology behind the 911 model designations.
964 to 993 to 996 to 997 then 991
Why jump back down?

[BMW269]

Marketing sells...

[reihani]

can't wait to see the 991 facelift. I think the rear is gonna look tremendous. Really hoping for Macan like tailights

[Petros]

Originally Posted by reihani

can't wait to see the 991 facelift.

you don't have to. just look at every 911 for the last 50 years, and you will get the idea of what the "new" one will look like

[reihani]

Originally Posted by Petros

you don't have to. just look at every 911 for the last 50 years, and you will get the idea of what the "new" one will look like

Why mess with perfection!!

[aajami]

My guess is that they realized they were going to hit 1,000 too soon and decided to revert to a smaller number.

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by aajami

My guess is that they realized they were going to hit 1,000 too soon and decided to revert to a smaller number.

That's what I thought, but it seemed too silly. What moron decided to start that high in the first place?

[wisesoul]

Must be something internal that they did. The Cayman went from 987 to 981, the last number must mean something.

[pokerface]

I think it's just meant to be an internal product code. ie., E46 -> E90 -> F30

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by pokerface

I think it's just meant to be an internal product code. ie., E46 -> E90 -> F30

I know its an internal product code, but usually they follow some type of logic. BMW is now follow the alphabet. Now if they go from the G platforms upcoming to C designated codes, we'll all wonder why.

Porsche went backwards this time.

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by OneRib

I know its an internal product code, but usually they follow some type of logic. BMW is now follow the alphabet. Now if they go from the G platforms upcoming to C designated codes, we'll all wonder why.

Porsche went backwards this time.

What matters most is that while the numbers went backwards the cars themselves jumped so far ahead of everything (and they were already ahead) in the industry that even though the 991 has been out for several years they are still scratching their heads on how to compete with it in any variation.

[Petros]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

What matters most is that while the numbers went backwards the cars themselves jumped so far ahead of everything (and they were already ahead) in the industry that even though the 991 has been out for several years they are still scratching their heads on how to compete with it in any variation.

Really? Because whenever they have track comparisons of 911 with Vettes or GT-R, the Beetle is usually staring into the taillights of the other cars

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by Petros

Really? Because whenever they have track comparisons of 911 with Vettes or GT-R, the Beetle is usually staring into the taillights of the other cars

Umm...no.

When the 991C4S went up against the Stingray and F12 for best drivers car, which car was picked as the winner?

In Best drivers car 2014, which ranked highest the turbo S or GTR?

How many times has the vette or GTR won best drivers car or EVO car of the year, or best performance car? How many times has the 911 won?

Should I go into pro racing especially ALMS where porsche has utterly dominated Chevy in the GT/GT2 class for the ~15 years it was around?

That list could go on and on but you get the picture.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

Umm...no.

When the 991C4S went up against the Stingray and F12 for best drivers car, which car was picked as the winner?

In Best drivers car 2014, which ranked highest the turbo S or GTR?

How many times has the vette or GTR won best drivers car or EVO car of the year, or best performance car? How many times has the 911 won?

Should I go into pro racing especially ALMS where porsche has utterly dominated Chevy in the GT/GT2 class for the ~15 years it was around?

That list could go on and on but you get the picture.

Please stop. You're making me look bad.

The fanboyism of those in the Porsche camp is without question stronger than any other circle I'm involved in.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

Umm...no.

When the 991C4S went up against the Stingray and F12 for best drivers car, which car was picked as the winner?

In Best drivers car 2014, which ranked highest the turbo S or GTR?

How many times has the vette or GTR won best drivers car or EVO car of the year, or best performance car? How many times has the 911 won?

Should I go into pro racing especially ALMS where porsche has utterly dominated Chevy in the GT/GT2 class for the ~15 years it was around?

That list could go on and on but you get the picture.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by FC4

Please stop. You're making me look bad.

The fanboyism of those in the Porsche camp is without question stronger than any other circle I'm involved in.

Those P-Car holders can be touchy...

lol

Hey when its all said n done.. The BEST cars have roots in Germany... Everything goes around the Nurburgring/Nordschleife

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Those P-Car holders can be touchy...

lol

Hey when its all said n done.. The BEST cars have roots in Germany... Everything goes around the Nuremberg

Uh, might want to rethink that city.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Uh, might want to rethink that city.

Thanks. Nice Save

Its been corrected: Nurburgring/Nordschleife

[Petros]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

The BEST cars have roots in Germany... Everything goes around the Nurburgring/Nordschleife

And that explains why out of the 20 fastest ever street cars on the Nurburgring, only 3 are made in Germany

[reihani]

Originally Posted by Petros

And that explains why out of the 20 fastest ever street cars on the Nurburgring, only 3 are made in Germany

He said best. Not fastest. I'm not a porsche fanboy. I drive M's. But you're argument is lacking.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Petros

And that explains why out of the 20 fastest ever street cars on the Nurburgring, only 3 are made in Germany

Wait for it...

But...umm...at least their interiors are nice!!

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by Petros

And that explains why out of the 20 fastest ever street cars on the Nurburgring, only 3 are made in Germany

The longest standing record for the Ring has been held by a Porsche 356.
Of the 85 times listed in Wikipedia for laps under 8 mins, 22 of them are Porsche times. And I know there are a few more since the new cayenne turbo has set a record with a 7:59 time. First Production SUV to lap in under 8 mins and absolutely crushes the previous Range Rover record of 8:14.

And just for comparison sake:

Of those 85,

Ferrari - 6
Chevy - 10
BMW - 3 but there are a few more not listed
Mercedes - 3 but again a few more not listed

Overall, again, the point is Porsche has been winning and winning and utterly dominating in any aspect for so long and so consistently they make the Yankees look bad.