Fifth Gear: Porsche 911 GT3 vs. Ferrari 458 Specialie (Chris Harris vs. Tiff Needell)

SaMaster14 · 07-16-2015, 04:41 AM

Love both these cars and both presenters!!

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/wat...-track-battle/

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SenorFunkyPants · 07-16-2015, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Love both these cars and both presenters!!

I would have preferred to have seen the head to head at a decent track (Castle is pretty rubbish) and in the dry.
And Tiff should have at least asked someone how to pronounce "Specialie" correctly!

But still a fun race.

NYAWE60 · 07-16-2015, 09:59 AM

Epic battle, I love both those fellas.

FogCityM3 · 07-16-2015, 12:26 PM

In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.

Z K · 07-16-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FogCityM3

In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.

+1

I like Chris Harris' car reviews and he has some great commentary but as a driver Tiff is much better. Jason Plato was a more comparable driver to Tiff when they did track battles.

FogCityM3 · 07-17-2015, 08:43 PM

Yeah, Harris does compete in some racing nowadays but Tiff is highly experienced and one of the fastest drivers...he went on a Lambo racing team drove in the wet on a show and was getting faster times than the team's hotshot young drivers. Also in this vid, I think he let Harris pass to make it interesting..that last half lap had Tiff pulling away big time through the turns and the straights.

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+1

I like Chris Harris' car reviews and he has some great commentary but as a driver Tiff is much better. Jason Plato was a more comparable driver to Tiff when they did track battles.

AW335TT · 07-17-2015, 09:01 PM

Tiff seemed he was being a little sloppy, to make the video more interesting.

m3_love · 07-17-2015, 09:04 PM

I have always enjoyed videos with commentaries by Tiff, funny guy, thanks for sharing!

TahoeM3 · 07-17-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FogCityM3

In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.

I don't know about that...the Ferrari is much faster in a straight line. Just look at the race start and the straights. Tiff sandbagged a bit and let it get loose on him to make it interesting, but the Ferrari has a big performance advantage.

SenorFunkyPants · 07-18-2015, 04:47 AM

I met Tiff at a Porsche corporate track day years ago...was a genuinely nice person.

Jashley73 · 07-21-2015, 11:47 AM

Also worth noting, is that Chris owns (or has owned) a GT3 RS himself... He's certainly no slouch though - I'm sure correcting that car from oversteer - at those speeds especially - takes skill...

Mirko · 07-24-2015, 02:01 PM

Great video .. two of my three favorite presenters.

RJVIII · 07-24-2015, 04:05 PM

Really great-thanks!

SMURFDADDY · 07-24-2015, 05:31 PM

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I don't know about that...the Ferrari is much faster in a straight line. Just look at the race start and the straights. Tiff sandbagged a bit and let it get loose on him to make it interesting, but the Ferrari has a big performance advantage.

I think the argument of "who is the better driver" is a moot point really, they are both IMO equally skilled and while I'd agree that Tiff made a point to drive the car in a more entertaining manner, the GT3 never stood a chance.

Id like to see a 10 lap showdown between the both in equal machinery

ianbiz · 07-24-2015, 10:31 PM

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Also worth noting, is that Chris owns (or has owned) a GT3 RS himself... He's certainly no slouch though - I'm sure correcting that car from oversteer - at those speeds especially - takes skill...

He had the 997.2 4.0. Now he drives a 991 GTS

AlpineE92M3 · 07-24-2015, 10:57 PM

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Great video .. two of my three favorite presenters.

Whos the other?

tantrumsberm · 07-27-2015, 12:45 PM

Great vid. However, I would have liked to see the Speciale up against a GT3 RS.

rjd598 · 07-27-2015, 01:32 PM

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Whos the other?

take a wild guess

AlpineE92M3 · 07-27-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

take a wild guess

My guess would be Clarkson but who knows lol.

rjd598 · 07-27-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpineE92M3

My guess would be Clarkson but who knows lol.

that would be mine as well

Mirko · 07-27-2015, 10:18 PM

hahaha .. yeah it would be Clarkson

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