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SCOTT26 · 09-05-2017, 06:23 PM

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mkoesel · 09-05-2017, 08:06 PM

That's the 1er sedan, yes? So it's headed to the US then? Good idea because that A Class sedan looks ready to pounce next year, and the A3 is also printing money for Audi.

c1pher · 09-05-2017, 08:22 PM

It’s FWD though, correct? Will there be an xdrive 140i?

mkoesel · 09-05-2017, 08:34 PM

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It’s FWD though, correct? Will there be an xdrive 140i?

An xDrive M135i, yep. Basically, a BMW to appeal to the Audi S3 target market.

SCOTT26 · 09-05-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

That's the 1er sedan, yes? So it's headed to the US then? Good idea because that A Class sedan looks ready to pounce next year, and the A3 is also printing money for Audi.

No plans for the US are definite. But it is being discussed. Maybe not this generation.

mkoesel · 09-05-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

No plans for the US are definite. But it is being discussed. Maybe not this generation.

I see. That's unfortunate. Now is the time for this product. As much of the motoring populace migrates toward crossovers (especially here in the US, but in many other regions too), smaller passenger sedans seem to be among the rare three box vehicles to retain wide appeal. It makes sense because, while you can get an SUV that is smaller than the traditional family sedan, there aren't many that are smaller, lighter, more nimble, as efficient as a compact car. Yet.

pokerface · 09-06-2017, 08:33 AM

So what exactly are we "salving".. er saving?

MightyMouseTech · 09-06-2017, 08:36 AM

So another Mini with a BMW badge?

R N M · 09-06-2017, 12:01 PM

Wow more FWD BMWs - way to ruin a brand. Why not creat a sub-brand to sell this crap.

Also if you think FWD cars is salvation, this doesn't sound too promising of where BMW is headed.

NickyC · 09-06-2017, 12:03 PM

So, another overpriced BMW. Can't wait.

mkoesel · 09-06-2017, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerface

So what exactly are we "salving".. er saving?

That was with regard to the August US Sales thread, where this was originally posted. I split it off thinking that the car was coming to the US (hence "salvation" - saving BMW from sliding sales figures in the US), which I thought would probably generate enough content for its own thread, but it seems it might still be a few years away.

MightyMouseTech · 09-06-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by R N M

Wow more FWD BMWs - way to ruin a brand. Why not creat a sub-brand to sell this crap.

They already do, it's called Mini.

alex2364 · 09-06-2017, 12:55 PM

If I wanted a cheap FWD, I'd rather get a Mazda 3.

MSups6 · 09-06-2017, 05:15 PM

No rwd no buy, F off with this bs Bimmer.

More and more the ultimate poser machine.

SCOTT26 · 09-06-2017, 06:12 PM

It's actually a good car to drive and is proving popular with younger Chinese customers as that is a segment that also sustains compact sedans a strong well as SUVs. Hence why the A-Klasse Sedan has now appeared testing.

I reckon this car would do extremely well in America. Available in xDrive and a potential M35i xDrive. I a man sure some here would sense the opportunity?

ASAP · 09-06-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It's actually a good car to drive and is proving popular with younger Chinese customers as that is a segment that also sustains compact sedans a strong well as SUVs. Hence why the A-Klasse Sedan has now appeared testing.

I reckon this car would do extremely well in America. Available in xDrive and a potential M35i xDrive. I a man sure some here would sense the opportunity?

Dude, you definitely know how to dig a hole deeper

pokerface · 09-06-2017, 09:53 PM

Scott I suppose an M35i will no longer represent an inline6? Sounds like an upgraded transverse 4 cylinder since the normal 2.0 has already been badged 30i.

HyeWarrior · 09-06-2017, 10:48 PM

It will sell like hot cakes, so they might as well bring it over to compete with the A3 and CLA

I can feel the $300 lease specials coming now

mkoesel · 09-07-2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerface

Scott I suppose an M35i will no longer represent an inline6? Sounds like an upgraded transverse 4 cylinder since the normal 2.0 has already been badged 30i.

Yes, this has been covered in past discussions.

CLAR:
30i - B48
40i, M40i - B58

UKL:
25i - B48 (28i in North America for marketing reasons)
M35i - B48 High Output

Transverse I6 engines make for awkward packaging. Just ask Volvo who has switched to I4 engines and finally fixed their front suspension geometry.

alex2364 · 09-07-2017, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It's actually a good car to drive and is proving popular with younger Chinese customers as that is a segment that also sustains compact sedans a strong well as SUVs. Hence why the A-Klasse Sedan has now appeared testing.

I reckon this car would do extremely well in America. Available in xDrive and a potential M35i xDrive. I a man sure some here would sense the opportunity?

So it will sell here because it did well in China? In that case, why doesn't BMW bring over the F35 to US?

pz619 · 09-07-2017, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

So it will sell here because it did well in China? In that case, why doesn't BMW bring over the F35 to US?

Agreed, I'm not convinced China market cars will do well here. Outside of the obvious abomination of a mutant FWD BMW, look at the cars that do well there. Case in point, Buick. Immensely popular in China, but can't sell in the US without a boatload of cash on the hood.

vinylengraver · 09-07-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

They already do, it's called Mini.

And in China, it is called Lifan 320, yay!

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