No law to pay income tax???

Robertbog · 07-01-2008, 03:03 PM

WTF?

It's a god damn trap, the supreme court ruled against the 16th amendment which was never ratified. Why do we fail so much, and let banks enslave us for 3 months willingly!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...AqTsrAKulqy5BA

In the damn constitution it says "direct and apportioned" taxes are allowed, well the income tax is neither direct nor indirect (way more direct) also it is NOT apportioned.

Why do we let these cooperate fools enslave us? You'd really love to know where the money goes wouldnt you.

Kiemyster · 07-01-2008, 03:06 PM

no. there is no law that sais you have to pay taxes. hence, why i will never pay taxes. cheers

Robertbog · 07-01-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiemyster

no. there is no law that sais you have to pay taxes. hence, why i will never pay taxes. cheers

Here in the US we really need to win our government back.

but govt jacked

samwoo2go · 07-01-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertbog

WTF?

It's a god damn trap, the supreme court ruled against the 16th amendment which was never ratified. Why do we fail so much, and let banks enslave us for 3 months willingly!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...20to%20fascism

In the damn constitution it says "direct and apportioned" taxes are allowed, well the income tax is neither direct nor indirect (way more direct) also it is NOT apportioned.

Why do we let these cooperate fools enslave us? You'd really love to know where the money goes wouldnt you.

Because we don't want to live here...

Robertbog · 07-01-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by samwoo2go

Because we don't want to live here...

Well there was the whole revolutionary war, which we have destroyed any gifts from....

Kiemyster · 07-01-2008, 03:59 PM

there have been quite a few cases that won in court and they walked, and never paid taxes in their lives.

Robertbog · 07-01-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiemyster

there have been quite a few cases that won in court and they walked, and never paid taxes in their lives.

you have to have a good argument and get lucky.

iatacs19 · 07-01-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiemyster

there have been quite a few cases that won in court and they walked, and never paid taxes in their lives.

I never heard of a single case that won.

Can you share some links or case numbers with us?

Kiemyster · 07-01-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iatacs19

I never heard of a single case that won.

Can you share some links or case numbers with us?

its on google video... ill find them for u

Robertbog · 07-01-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iatacs19

I never heard of a single case that won.

Can you share some links or case numbers with us?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...AqTsrAKulqy5BA

that will fully educate you on the subject

Kiemyster · 07-01-2008, 04:26 PM

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...s&sitesearch=#

didnt find the people who fought in court video i found a while ago... but this is good enough.

iatacs19 · 07-01-2008, 04:30 PM

I understand the arguments, just wondering if there is an actual case that went to court and won without any appeals, etc.

howardpro · 07-01-2008, 04:46 PM

try it and let us know how you make out

howardpro · 07-01-2008, 04:46 PM

maybe consult with Wesley Snipes first

Neurorad · 07-01-2008, 04:48 PM

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stooken · 07-01-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by howardpro

maybe consult with Wesley Snipes first

MikeCCrutchfield · 07-02-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiemyster

there have been quite a few cases that won in court and they walked, and never paid taxes in their lives.

Wesley Snipes was just found guilty of tax evasion because he believed the people who said he didn't have to pay tax. If a rich guy can't get away with it, no one will.

Haha...guess I should have read farther down before I posted :-P

BK · 07-02-2008, 01:01 AM

26 U.S.C. § 1

FirstClass · 07-02-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertbog

WTF?

It's a god damn trap, the supreme court ruled against the 16th amendment which was never ratified. Why do we fail so much, and let banks enslave us for 3 months willingly!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...AqTsrAKulqy5BA

In the damn constitution it says "direct and apportioned" taxes are allowed, well the income tax is neither direct nor indirect (way more direct) also it is NOT apportioned.

Why do we let these cooperate fools enslave us? You'd really love to know where the money goes wouldnt you.

Did you miss that little part after the Constitution that says "Amendments"? Look at number 16.

AWD Addict · 07-02-2008, 01:52 PM

16 was actually ratified, just after the allowable statuatory time period.

The offensive part is that 16 violates the Constitutions original premise of fair and equal taxation (apportionment).

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Originally Posted by Article 1 Section 8

The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises ... but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States ... No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken

There has been quite a bit of case law with challenges to the 16th amendment, but no one's ever succeeded. The Supreme Court upholds the Amendment every time.

Start with Pollock vs. Farmers Loan & Trust. That's where it all began. After that, the liberals took over, and forced the income tax into place.

Robertbog · 07-02-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BK

26 U.S.C. § 1

That's the internal revenue code.

BK · 07-03-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertbog

That's the internal revenue code.

Correct.

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