[dutchm2]

Hello Everyone,

A tour in the Alps with only BMW's was on my radar for long time and I'm finally looking to get this sorted regardless the tour it will happen only in 2022. I name it "Higher Ground Tour".

2020 was a devastating year with the departure of the Inspiring Moderator Dackelone, but this made me even more willing to carry out the tour. Somehow to honor Him as soon as we are in the Alps.

2020 was also a year to forget in regards car/tour events but not entirely in vain as our desire to bring the “Higher Ground Tour” event to our members was always present. 2021 wasn’t much better either, therefore 2022 will be the year to get our asses down the road and take you on an ultimate driving adventure across the Alps.

For those who haven’t been there, the roads are exceptionally good and the views equally breathtaking. Our cars will cross four countries; Germany, Austria, Italy and Switzerland, we’ve found some pearls of hotels here, each unique in its own way.

Some of the places, regions and passes we will drive:

- Porsche Museum, Stuttgart / Black Forest - Schwarzwald

- Davos/ Reschenpass/ Ofenpass/ Fluelapass/ Albulapass/ BerPleninapass/ Julierpass/ Majojapass/ Splügen Pass/ San Bernardinopass

- Much more...

This way I would like to hear from some of you that already participated and other newcomers your thoughts for this nice. Besides this thread that I would like to make official - I do also run a FB thread and what I will do is merge both information so this can be follow up accordingly.

swagon mjn77


Please throw out your thoughts and ideas so we can arrange a great event in 2022!

Joao

[dutchm2]

Obviously we're both present!

[mjn77]

Count me in.

[mjn77]

Newbies can check the links in my sig as to what you can expect in terms of roads

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

Count me in.

That's awesome!

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

Newbies can check the links in my sig as to what you can expect in terms of roads

Great content! And definitely loads of inspiring places to find for the HGT event!

[mjn77]

joao.toscano has posted photos of the roads, now i'll show you the good stuff!

[dutchm2]

Thanks mjn77 !!

Besides the pleasure of driving the beauty of nature and all those good times are the perfect combo for making of this a remarkable tour!

Looking forward to have a great journey hopefully with some of you!

[mjn77]

And beer!!

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

And beer!!

That's for sure mjn77

I promise I'll bring my Untappd app well updated to recognize some of the local beers!

[dutchm2]

For our own reference that prices for 1 litre of fuel in Europe as of 15. July 2021 are:

https://www.tolls.eu/fuel-prices

Netherlands [95]: € 1.84
Austria [95]: € 1.31
Italy [95]: € 1.65
Germany [95]: € 1.60
Luxembourg [95]: € 1.35
Switzerland [95]: 1.63 CHF/L

[mjn77]

And for any newbies, don't forget you'll need some vignettes as well

https://www.tolltickets.com/en/country/products

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

And for any newbies, don't forget you'll need some vignettes as well

https://www.tolltickets.com/en/country/products

Thanks for the reminder mjn77

Good to know as I never ordered for Germany [Only with emission sticker – also applies for foreign vehicles!]

- For Italy: Probably will be taking the Telepass - what's your thoughts considering that at most we'll be driving in the mountains and not necessarily highways.

- For Austria: Pretty much will get a Vignette on a local gas station [10 days]

- For Switzerland pretty much doing the same - just wondering if there's a weekly vignette available as well. I can't remember which one I used in the past.

[mjn77]

Originally Posted by joao.toscano

Thanks for the reminder mjn77

Good to know as I never ordered for Germany [Only with emission sticker – also applies for foreign vehicles!]

- For Italy: Probably will be taking the Telepass - what's your thoughts considering that at most we'll be driving in the mountains and not necessarily highways.

- For Austria: Pretty much will get a Vignette on a local gas station [10 days]

- For Switzerland pretty much doing the same - just wondering if there's a weekly vignette available as well. I can't remember which one I used in the past.

For Italy, i just pay at the tolls.
For France, i have bipper for the auto lanes.
For Austria, usually buy a 10 day pass in advance.
For Switzerland, i usually buy a pass in advance. 14 months is the only option!
For Slovenia, same as Switzerland.

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

For Italy, i just pay at the tolls.
For France, i have bipper for the auto lanes.
For Austria, usually buy a 10 day pass in advance.
For Switzerland, i usually buy a pass in advance. 14 months is the only option!
For Slovenia, same as Switzerland.

All right ... already found where to buy it and it last even until end of 2022.

https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...-stickers.html

[swagon]

Nice, nice. Will see how it goes next year with the Rona and work.

[mjn77]

Originally Posted by joao.toscano

All right ... already found where to buy it and it last even until end of 2022.

https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...-stickers.html

Yeah, Switzerland is December to January, eg December 2020 - January 2022.

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by swagon

Nice, nice. Will see how it goes next year with the Rona and work.

Would be Super Super to have you with us swagon - besides your experience in the field i'm really looking forward to meet you guys! Having a mix knowledge base will only make the event greater!

Assume Rona is a relative! Will be very welcome as well.

Together with others - inc mjn77 we set up a whatsapp group as well to start discussing some of the stuff that a event like this involves. Feel free to join there if you're interested. Just pm either one of us.

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by mjn77

Yeah, Switzerland is December to January, eg December 2020 - January 2022.

2 years right - shall be!

[Wild Blue]

Jealous. Wish I could join you guys. Would if I could.

Originally Posted by joao.toscano

Assume Rona is a relative! Will be very welcome as well.

Oh, I really don't think you want 'rona to come along. China has shared more 'rona than any of us ever wanted.

[dutchm2]

Originally Posted by Flo88

Thats a great idea - thanks for the hint Joao. I live in Kreuzlingen (Switzerland) so maybe I could/would join your guys. Since in swiss speed limit is only 80 i think i can follow you. Be awared in December there is a lot of snow on the alps, so winter tires is recommended ;-)

First of all you're very welcome! Secondly would be awesome to have another F20 M140i next to the M's. I will ping you separately about the whatsapp chat.

Cheers!

[dutchm2]

Rikx1M trying to reach you with message (pm) but it seems you're overloaded with quota. Let me know when is sorted.