What PPF Brand To Go With?

Corms85 · 12-28-2021, 05:26 PM

I took delivery of my 2022 M3C last week and got my window tint done and it looks great. Now I am going to get the front on my car PPF'd (front bumper, hood, and fenders). My car is frozen brilliant white so obviously doing the matte PPF and wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the Xpel vs. Kavaca? Does anyone have experience with either on a frozen paint? I want to make sure the cars paint looks the same as it is today and the back half of the car doesn't look different from the front.

I am getting quotes between $1850-$2100 for either of the brands from two different shops in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Then $1300 on top of that to do a 4 layer ceramic pro treatment to the car. Does this seem reasonable?

BMWRacer523 · 12-28-2021, 07:00 PM

Sounds about right. Do the rockers too.

asmazda · 12-28-2021, 07:42 PM

Kavaca only has gloss one last time I checked. So I think your choices are Xpel or Stek. I had Stek on my last car and it was fine. Xpel is sort of the original. Honestly, I think the installer is more important than the brand as long as you go with one of the popular brands. So if you have found good installer, I would go with whatever they sell. If they sell multiple brands, ask them which one easier for them to install.

HTTP 410 · 12-28-2021, 07:48 PM

I got Suntek Ultra put in the day after delivery.

chicagofan00 · 12-28-2021, 08:44 PM

I got Xpel for PPF and ceramic tint, then Feynlab for ceramic from AZ Auto Aesthetics.

Paid just under $5k for PPF on front bumper, front fenders, full hood, full roof, a pillars, and on the CF side blades, full ceramic on the exterior & interior, and 20% all around with 70% on the windshield for tint.

M_Adaptive · 12-28-2021, 11:37 PM

Xpel uses a thicker film as well. The film is thicker so the film can self heal if you get a scratch. My installer says you just take a heat gun to the scratch and the film looks like new. I’ve never had to do this. Stek is easier to install than xpel I hear so that may also be a factor depending on how good your installer is. I would definitely go Stek or Xpel.

DAlby18 · 12-28-2021, 11:54 PM

I haven't done my full research yet but I will most likely be going with Kavaca. A friend of mine is the dealer for Canada and from what I know. Kavaca comes in regular and stealth (matte) and also has the option to come with ceramic coating on the PPF as well from factory. The film is 8mm thick and doesn't need a heat gun for the self healing to activate. As someone mentioned the installer is the most important factor but another thing for me is discolouration over time. I have seen some PPF go yellow in a 6 month period.

Corms85 · 12-29-2021, 10:08 PM

Just locked in my date of 1/10 for my PPF (front bumper, headlights, fenders, and hood) and full Ceramic Pro Gold package with 4 layers of 9H, and full paint correction. They said it is about a 3-4 day install and it is running me about $3100

DAlby18 · 12-30-2021, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Corms85

Just locked in my date of 1/10 for my PPF (front bumper, headlights, fenders, and hood) and full Ceramic Pro Gold package with 4 layers of 9H, and full paint correction. They said it is about a 3-4 day install and it is running me about $3100

Is that for Kavaca?

Corms85 · 12-30-2021, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DAlby18

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Originally Posted by Corms85

Just locked in my date of 1/10 for my PPF (front bumper, headlights, fenders, and hood) and full Ceramic Pro Gold package with 4 layers of 9H, and full paint correction. They said it is about a 3-4 day install and it is running me about $3100

Is that for Kavaca?

Ended up going with Xpel

tooshay · 12-30-2021, 04:29 AM

Xpel stealth for me. It was a perfect match for the frozen paint.

ibmc · 12-30-2021, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Corms85

I took delivery of my 2022 M3C last week and got my window tint done and it looks great. Now I am going to get the front on my car PPF'd (front bumper, hood, and fenders). My car is frozen brilliant white so obviously doing the matte PPF and wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the Xpel vs. Kavaca? Does anyone have experience with either on a frozen paint? I want to make sure the cars paint looks the same as it is today and the back half of the car doesn't look different from the front.

I am getting quotes between $1850-$2100 for either of the brands from two different shops in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Then $1300 on top of that to do a 4 layer ceramic pro treatment to the car. Does this seem reasonable?

XPEL was on my (now sold) White 2018 M4 competition. It did a great job and I will do the same on my (in production)Black G82. My local dealer will give a discount as a repeat customer, or as a Veteran, but not both combined.

retroviol3t · 01-03-2022, 12:52 PM

LLumar dealer with self healing matte PPF quoting $3200 for entire front end and A Pillars plus roof halfway back. Seems high, no?

Corms85 · 01-03-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenrobot

LLumar dealer with self healing matte PPF quoting $3200 for entire front end and A Pillars plus roof halfway back. Seems high, no?

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Originally Posted by frozenrobot

LLumar dealer with self healing matte PPF quoting $3200 for entire front end and A Pillars plus roof halfway back. Seems high, no?

Depends on where you are located but yeah that seems a bit high for most areas. I would also do the entire roof and not just half.

SriC · 12-05-2022, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tooshay

Xpel stealth for me. It was a perfect match for the frozen paint.

I agree with you. XPEL stealth keeps the same sheen as the original paint. I am attaching some pics of my testing on Frozen black. One on the left is Kavaca and right one is XPEL. XPEL blends very clean with rest of the vehicle.

BSMG82M4 · 10-31-2023, 05:12 AM

Has anyone used Covrgard PPF?

Limegrntaln · 11-27-2023, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SriC

I agree with you. XPEL stealth keeps the same sheen as the original paint. I am attaching some pics of my testing on Frozen black. One on the left is Kavaca and right one is XPEL. XPEL blends very clean with rest of the vehicle.

I was trying to figure out what you were trying to show us, here. I didn't realize what was going on, until I saw the 3rd picture, from the back angle. That's blends so well, you cant even see it without looking at it, at the correct angle.

christianb5s4 · 12-06-2023, 06:45 PM

I'm going with Suntek Reaction and have seen nothing but good things about it. I too agree, the key is the installer. Type of film as long as it's quality is less important.

Chilled · 12-09-2023, 08:46 PM

Here is a fun vid.

Compared to 3M and Stek. Xpel is B tier at best. Why does XPEL ppf need ceramic coating? Is it just to drum up more business for the brand or is it because your product is junk?

NikMN · 12-10-2023, 06:09 AM

Which halfwit is going to pay $5k more for your ppf car when it's time to sell/traid in?

Westside Guy · 12-10-2023, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NikMN

Which halfwit going to pay $5k more for your ppf car when it's time to sell/traid in?

PPF is marketed towards the owners like me that obsess over keeping the finish of their vehicles pristine.

Topcarbon · 12-10-2023, 08:07 AM

XPEL stealth here from day one

12-28-2021, 05:26 PM	#1
Corms85 Second Lieutenant 288 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 Competition Join Date: May 2016 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (0)	What PPF Brand To Go With? I took delivery of my 2022 M3C last week and got my window tint done and it looks great. Now I am going to get the front on my car PPF'd (front bumper, hood, and fenders). My car is frozen brilliant white so obviously doing the matte PPF and wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the Xpel vs. Kavaca? Does anyone have experience with either on a frozen paint? I want to make sure the cars paint looks the same as it is today and the back half of the car doesn't look different from the front. I am getting quotes between $1850-$2100 for either of the brands from two different shops in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Then $1300 on top of that to do a 4 layer ceramic pro treatment to the car. Does this seem reasonable?
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12-28-2021, 07:00 PM	#2
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12-28-2021, 07:42 PM	#3
asmazda Private First Class 108 Rep 191 Posts Drives: F90 M5 CS Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (0)	Kavaca only has gloss one last time I checked. So I think your choices are Xpel or Stek. I had Stek on my last car and it was fine. Xpel is sort of the original. Honestly, I think the installer is more important than the brand as long as you go with one of the popular brands. So if you have found good installer, I would go with whatever they sell. If they sell multiple brands, ask them which one easier for them to install.
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chicagofan00 Major General 20318 Rep 8,349 Posts Drives: 2024 X5 M60i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix iTrader: (1) Garage List 2024 BMW X5 M60i [9.80]	I got Xpel for PPF and ceramic tint, then Feynlab for ceramic from AZ Auto Aesthetics. Paid just under $5k for PPF on front bumper, front fenders, full hood, full roof, a pillars, and on the CF side blades, full ceramic on the exterior & interior, and 20% all around with 70% on the windshield for tint. __________________ Instagram: @Phxrisingphotography Current - 2024 G05 X5 ///M60i in Java Green Past - 2005 E53 X5 3.0i in Titanium Silver; 2008 E92 335i in Montego Blue; 2019 G01 X3 M40i in Glacier Silver; 2022 G80 M3 Competition in Twilight Purple
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12-28-2021, 11:37 PM	#6
M_Adaptive Lieutenant 1785 Rep 586 Posts Drives: E92 M3, 2022 G82 M4 AWD Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Xpel uses a thicker film as well. The film is thicker so the film can self heal if you get a scratch. My installer says you just take a heat gun to the scratch and the film looks like new. I’ve never had to do this. Stek is easier to install than xpel I hear so that may also be a factor depending on how good your installer is. I would definitely go Stek or Xpel. __________________ IG: Adaptiive_M E46 M3 (Sold) E92 M3 2022 G82 M4C Xdrive
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DAlby18 Private First Class 53 Rep 109 Posts Drives: Toronto Red M3 Competition Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	I haven't done my full research yet but I will most likely be going with Kavaca. A friend of mine is the dealer for Canada and from what I know. Kavaca comes in regular and stealth (matte) and also has the option to come with ceramic coating on the PPF as well from factory. The film is 8mm thick and doesn't need a heat gun for the self healing to activate. As someone mentioned the installer is the most important factor but another thing for me is discolouration over time. I have seen some PPF go yellow in a 6 month period.
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12-29-2021, 10:08 PM	#8
Corms85 Second Lieutenant 288 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 Competition Join Date: May 2016 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (0)	Just locked in my date of 1/10 for my PPF (front bumper, headlights, fenders, and hood) and full Ceramic Pro Gold package with 4 layers of 9H, and full paint correction. They said it is about a 3-4 day install and it is running me about $3100
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12-30-2021, 04:29 AM	#11
tooshay Captain 314 Rep 757 Posts Drives: G20+M3 badge Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Temecula iTrader: (6)	Xpel stealth for me. It was a perfect match for the frozen paint. Attached Images __________________ G20 with some ///M3 stuff = G80
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retroviol3t First Lieutenant 518 Rep 351 Posts Drives: 2023 Jahre - Techno Violet Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Only Ten I See iTrader: (0)	LLumar dealer with self healing matte PPF quoting $3200 for entire front end and A Pillars plus roof halfway back. Seems high, no?
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BSMG82M4 Second Lieutenant 930 Rep 289 Posts Drives: BMW G82 M4 Competition Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW G82 M4 Com ... [9.36]	Has anyone used Covrgard PPF?
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12-06-2023, 06:45 PM	#18
christianb5s4 Major 1679 Rep 1,013 Posts Drives: Built 2001 Audi S4 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	I'm going with Suntek Reaction and have seen nothing but good things about it. I too agree, the key is the installer. Type of film as long as it's quality is less important. __________________ 2024 M3 CompX Dravit Grey - MP HAS - Millway - MHC+ carbon - CS software - Fabspeed - MAD - PPF 2019 G05 X5 x40i, built 2001 600whp B5 S4.
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Chilled Major 527 Rep 1,222 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Tiny Island, Middle of Nowhere iTrader: (0)	Here is a fun vid. Compared to 3M and Stek. Xpel is B tier at best. Why does XPEL ppf need ceramic coating? Is it just to drum up more business for the brand or is it because your product is junk?
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12-10-2023, 08:07 AM	#22
Topcarbon Lieutenant 1311 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 2022 m4 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Pv mexico iTrader: (0)	XPEL stealth here from day one Attached Images
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