[Captain Blood]

Czech millionaire investigated over alleged 417km/h motorway drive in Germany https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60301705

[erickonphoenix]

Maybe he should have waited 24 months before he posted up??

[///MPhatic]

If you read the comments you'll see that they took a lot of precautions. I think this was as well done as it can be on public roads. I say fair play to them.

[tranquility]

Wasn't there a similar thread about this earlier? LOL @ those guys congratulating themselves like they were some pro racing team achieving something momentous. It's cool to have fun but on public roads, all it takes is for someone to step out and there would be no time to react, that's why they were lane-hogging the left-most lane. Playing w fire man.

[Tambohamilton]

Reckless. Idiots.

[5.M0NSTER]

Awesome, more power to him. German authorities need to put up with no speed limit law, or shut up. He broke no laws, and stayed in control. The “investigation” will not lead to any charges. He might get a ticket for straddling lanes.

I can’t even tell you how many times I was doing 140mph + and got overtaken at higher speeds when living in Germany. You keep your eyes on your rear view, and move out the way for faster traffic. Well known fact of life on the Autobahn.

I don’t know why so many see a problem here. No speed limit has been the staple of the Autobahn for some decades now. And it works! Why the big shock, and why take everyone’s fun away?

[Tambohamilton]

Pushing a car to its limit on a public road isn't clever or cool IMO, regardless of legality. Save that shit for the track. Given the relative speeds of other road users, 260mph is excessive anyhow. Bearing in mind that 155 is what's seen as a reasonable maximum (and most road users going a lot slower than that). Also, there's only a 5Hz control system in charge of that car...that's about 23 meter reaction distance at best.

[chassis]

Already saw this on bimmerpost.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

Pushing a car to its limit on a public road isn't clever or cool IMO, regardless of legality. Save that shit for the track. Given the relative speeds of other road users, 260mph is excessive anyhow. Bearing in mind that 155 is what's seen as a reasonable maximum (and most road users going a lot slower than that). Also, there's only a 5Hz control system in charge of that car...that's about 23 meter reaction distance at best.

At which track can this person go over 400? Not even Nordschleife is long and straight enough for this.

Also if Germany agreed with your 155 remark, that's where the speed limit would be.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

Pushing a car to its limit on a public road isn't clever or cool IMO, regardless of legality. Save that shit for the track. Given the relative speeds of other road users, 260mph is excessive anyhow. Bearing in mind that 155 is what's seen as a reasonable maximum (and most road users going a lot slower than that). Also, there's only a 5Hz control system in charge of that car...that's about 23 meter reaction distance at best.

Yup, it's a lot to do w relative speeds, those cars on the right lane he was passing might as well have been standing still, if they crossed 2 lanes or if there was someone in the middle lane who crossed one over, he'd be TOAST, don't give me any nonsense that he would be able to avoid it. Further, he's not even supposed to driving forever on the PASSing lane anyway.

I'm all for driving spiritedly and enjoying our cars, but there's a limit. It's all 'fun-and-games' until someone gets hurt/killed. Can't believe some of the flippant attitudes thinking that this is perfectly fine.

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

At which track can this person go over 400? Not even Nordschleife is long and straight enough for this.

Also if Germany agreed with your 155 remark, that's where the speed limit would be.

He can't do it on a track, therefore he should do it on a public road??

And yes, 155 has been agreed as a reasonable maximum for safety reasons, by BMW, Merc and Audi. Hence why most models are limited to that. It's not the law, but it shows there's widespread consensus that faster is less safe and 260mph is probably way out.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Awesome, more power to him. German authorities need to put up with no speed limit law, or shut up. He broke no laws, and stayed in control. The “investigation” will not lead to any charges. He might get a ticket for straddling lanes.

I can’t even tell you how many times I was doing 140mph + and got overtaken at higher speeds when living in Germany. You keep your eyes on your rear view, and move out the way for faster traffic. Well known fact of life on the Autobahn.

I don’t know why so many see a problem here. No speed limit has been the staple of the Autobahn for some decades now. And it works! Why the big shock, and why take everyone’s fun away?

I would bet reckless operation is against the law there.

[Tommysalami]

Like if any of you had a Chiron you wouldn't do this? Cmon you nannies LOL

No speed limit means what it means. Which speed exactly is too much? 100? 150? 200? 201? 202? 202.5? Dude's within his rights

[nicholasn]

Originally Posted by tranquility

Further, he's not even supposed to driving forever on the PASSing lane anyway.

Yeah, definitely should change lanes at 260 mph. Nothing could go wrong.

I wouldn't encourage people to do this, but it is pretty impressive to see how fast a Chiron can go. It seems like every precaution was taken into consideration to minimize risk to both the driver and other motorists, and as has been stated by others, I don't think everyone should have to suffer because of one extreme example where basically no laws were really broken. From what I understand, drivers license tests in Germany are extremely rigorous, traffic laws are enforced aggressively, and general vehicle condition standards are basically unmatched. Not to mention maintenance on the Autobahn is top-notch.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

He can't do it on a track, therefore he should do it on a public road??

And yes, 155 has been agreed as a reasonable maximum for safety reasons, by BMW, Merc and Audi. Hence why most models are limited to that. It's not the law, but it shows there's widespread consensus that faster is less safe and 260mph is probably way out.

Last I checked my M2 was limited to 168mph, and M2C at 174. 155 limit is a joke.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Tommysalami

Like if any of you had a Chiron you wouldn't do this? Cmon you nannies LOL

No speed limit means what it means. Which speed exactly is too much? 100? 150? 200? 201? 202? 202.5? Dude's within his rights

Naw, exactly like in the video? Hell no. ...but then again, lots of ppl did drugs and various criminal acts in their youths saying 'boys will be boys' so I'd expect the same from that crowd.

Originally Posted by nicholasn

Yeah, definitely should change lanes at 260 mph. Nothing could go wrong.

I wouldn't encourage people to do this, but it is pretty impressive to see how fast a Chiron can go. It seems like every precaution was taken into consideration to minimize risk to both the driver and other motorists, and as has been stated by others, I don't think everyone should have to suffer because of one extreme example where basically no laws were really broken. From what I understand, drivers license tests in Germany are extremely rigorous, traffic laws are enforced aggressively, and general vehicle condition standards are basically unmatched. Not to mention maintenance on the Autobahn is top-notch.

LOL, just selfishness talking, it's a public road not his personal playground, yet he decided it was safe? So it's perfectly fine to go 400+ but he can't be concerned about evasive maneuvers if somebody steps out? I guess he hasn't thought of everything after all. Make no mistake, unless it was a closed track, he didn't account for all contingencies, he tried to minimize them, sure, but things could happen. They got very lucky.

[5.M0NSTER]

I think we all agree that it was a public road. So therefore all road users are free to drive as fast as they want. If Germany had a problem with speed, there wouldn't be unlimited sections of the Autobahn. And that is a beautiful thing. Live and let live people!

P.S. Here was a section of my daily commute to work. Hit my speed governor almost every day (270kph/168mph), and loved it. It was legal, and no BMWs were hurt in the making of this video.

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Live and let live

Exactly. Do your thing, but don't take unnecessary risks with other people's lives; they're not yours to take.

[540iSUP]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Awesome, more power to him. German authorities need to put up with no speed limit law, or shut up. He broke no laws, and stayed in control. The “investigation” will not lead to any charges. He might get a ticket for straddling lanes.

I can’t even tell you how many times I was doing 140mph + and got overtaken at higher speeds when living in Germany. You keep your eyes on your rear view, and move out the way for faster traffic. Well known fact of life on the Autobahn.

I don’t know why so many see a problem here. No speed limit has been the staple of the Autobahn for some decades now. And it works! Why the big shock, and why take everyone’s fun away?

When I was stationed in Germany, many foreigners assumed that there were no speed limits at all. Kind of true, there are speed recommendations and some areas really do have actual limits. The way the Autobahn is set up is amazing! I love the sweeping curves, the flat roads, the scenery, and even the off ramps are like pit stops. Pegging a car at redline and mashing the pedal to the floor for an entire drive is something that car enthusiasts should be able to try at least once in their life. You'd be surprised at how little accidents happen on the Autobahn, however, when they do happen its usually fatal.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Last I checked my M2 was limited to 168mph, and M2C at 174. 155 limit is a joke.

Those limits are actually just 155 or 159 at best, bmws and most German cars read high on the speedo. So my m5 which was supposed to be 155 would go to 163 and others have gone slightly higher stock.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

He can't do it on a track, therefore he should do it on a public road??

And yes, 155 has been agreed as a reasonable maximum for safety reasons, by BMW, Merc and Audi. Hence why most models are limited to that. It's not the law, but it shows there's widespread consensus that faster is less safe and 260mph is probably way out.

And that's why you can pay 2500$ to raise the top speed to 190 in all bmws come on dude you're grasping at straws here... 155 is literally just because of the tires just like how most cars with non performance tires are rated at 133 for European cars or 120-129 for American cars. If you want to sit in the right lane and stay out of other people's way please do, but let other people live a bit.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by micvite

Those limits are actually just 155 or 159 at best, bmws and most German cars read high on the speedo. So my m5 which was supposed to be 155 would go to 163 and others have gone slightly higher stock.

I have good confidence in the ground speed being higher. First few seconds of this video my OG M2 was doing 162mph (GPS speed, not speedo) under the bridge, and I've seen higher. It went faster still with a longer straight on the Autobahn.