[M8CompSoCal]

Coming from Mercedes, I’m use to slightly pushing the break pedal a bit harder at a stop light to initiate break hold. Works great.

With my new M8, there’s a button that does the similar thing as my past Benz.

It works the same, but the only downside from what I’ve seen is that it constantly stays on and is annoying when pulling into a car space or my garage. I prefer the engine to do the work versus tapping my gas peddle to initiate the car to move forward in my garage, especially with 617 HP.

No I’m not bashing BMW, I was just used to soemthing on the Benz and if it doesn’t function the same, oh well, no sweat.

Can someone confirm if break hold can be activated by pressing the break pedal slightly harder like on a Mercedes or only in the way that I’ve been using it?

[Tejas1836]

Brake pedal hold- holds for a couple of seconds

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

Brake pedal hold- holds for a couple of seconds

As long as users don't confuse Brake-Hold with the "Drive-off Assistant" you are describing above.

To the OP, you can switch Brake-Hold off and use the (timed out) Drive-off Assistant for situations where Brake-Hold is less suited.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by alksion

Can someone confirm if break hold can be activated by pressing the break pedal slightly harder like on a Mercedes or only in the way that I’ve been using it?

Brake-Hold only works when switched on, then automatically activated by use of the service brakes.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

As long as users don't confuse Brake-Hold with the "Drive-off Assistant" you are describing above.

To the OP, you can switch Brake-Hold off and use the (timed out) Drive-off Assistant for situations where Brake-Hold is less suited.

Interesting. I will have to look at the drive off assistant

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Brake-Hold only works when switched on, then automatically activated by use of the service brakes.

Yeah that’s what I thought. I definitely miss that feature but oh well, all good!

[Tejas1836]

This is what I am describing:
"Principle
The drive-off assistant supports driving off on uphill grades.
Driving off
1. Hold the vehicle in place with the foot brake.
2. Release the foot brake and drive off without delay.
After the foot brake is released, the vehicle is held in place for approx. 2 seconds.
Depending on the vehicle loading, the vehicle may roll back slightly."

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by Onesie

What’s the MB feature? I’m not familiar with how it works

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8LU3qJ4ZGJI

The key difference here is the break hold is only activated by pushing down the brake pedal a little bit more than usual. It’s not constantly running like when you have the button turned on like BMW does it.

[LogicalApex]

Another former Mercedes driver here.

The Mercedes way of activation just makes much more sense. There isn’t an “on/off” setting for it as it isn’t needed. You activate it by pressing the brake peddle harder, as you mentioned, when stopping.

BMW doesn’t do it this way. For BMW you first have to activate “Hold” under the shifter and it will be on until you turn it off again and is remembered between drive sessions. You then come to a stop and it will automatically activate the function. Pressing harder won’t influence its activation. I also don’t believe you can deactivate it with a tap of the brake pedal like Mercedes either. You have to tap the gas. I used to tap the brake on the Benz to prevent that jerky start feeling as the car removes the brakes and starts going from the gas pedal that can startle your passengers.

At least BMW “fixed” the turn signal stalk on the G30 compared to older models. That would have taken me a longer time to adjust to I feel.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

This is what I am describing:
"Principle
The drive-off assistant supports driving off on uphill grades.
Driving off
1. Hold the vehicle in place with the foot brake.
2. Release the foot brake and drive off without delay.
After the foot brake is released, the vehicle is held in place for approx. 2 seconds.
Depending on the vehicle loading, the vehicle may roll back slightly."

Got it a little different than what I mean, but thank you for the clarification.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

Another former Mercedes driver here.

The Mercedes way of activation just makes much more sense. There isn’t an “on/off” setting for it as it isn’t needed. You activate it by pressing the brake peddle harder, as you mentioned, when stopping.

BMW doesn’t do it this way. For BMW you first have to activate “Hold” under the shifter and it will be on until you turn it off again and is remembered between drive sessions. You then come to a stop and it will automatically activate the function. Pressing harder won’t influence its activation. I also don’t believe you can deactivate it with a tap of the brake pedal like Mercedes either. You have to tap the gas. I used to tap the brake on the Benz to prevent that jerky start feeling as the car removes the brakes and starts going from the gas pedal that can startle your passengers.

Precisely. Mercedes definitely implements it better, but it’s all good the AMG 53 GLE Coupe is what’s going to be used on the long road trips anyways or even the shorter trips where a lot of traffic might be involved, so it’s all good.

[EngineGoBrrr]

The MB way makes more sense. Though when I test drove the GLE I couldn't for the life of me get it to work. Either I pressed too light or too hard and never got it to engage. The salesman explained it to me and I attempted multiple times but to no avail. I'm sure once you get familiar with where the engagement point is then it would be a lot more convenient. I always have to turn off brake hold when parking in the garage for my cars.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by EngineGoBrrr

The MB way makes more sense. Though when I test drove the GLE I couldn't for the life of me get it to work. Either I pressed too light or too hard and never got it to engage. The salesman explained it to me and I attempted multiple times but to no avail. I'm sure once you get familiar with where the engagement point is then it would be a lot more convenient. I always have to turn off brake hold when parking in the garage for my cars.

Yeah, I pretty much have only been driving Mercedes. This is my first BMW. Like anything once you figure out the finesse it’s like clockwork. Super convenient and I love it. Same thing every time I go into my garage. I have to turn off break hold, which is a little annoying.

[Curious41]

This is exactly why I don’t use auto brake hold in my car. What I find weird though is that some other BMWs I’ve driven function the same your Benz does including both pre-LCI and LCI G20 3 series. I wonder if it’s something that can be coded.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Curious41

This is exactly why I don’t use auto brake hold in my car. What I find weird though is that some other BMWs I’ve driven function the same your Benz does including both pre-LCI and LCI G20 3 series. I wonder if it’s something that can be coded.

Are you sure you are not in situations where the Drive-Off Assistant is active/functioning? We've had the Drive-off Assistant from the E9x models of 3-series, no Auto-Hold until the G2x models.

Both the Drive-off Assistant and Auto-Hold use the service brakes.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by Curious41

This is exactly why I don’t use auto brake hold in my car. What I find weird though is that some other BMWs I’ve driven function the same your Benz does including both pre-LCI and LCI G20 3 series. I wonder if it’s something that can be coded.

If you find anything about this send me a DM. Thanks.

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by alksion

Yeah, I pretty much have only been driving Mercedes. This is my first BMW. Like anything once you figure out the finesse it’s like clockwork. Super convenient and I love it. Same thing every time I go into my garage. I have to turn off break hold, which is a little annoying.

Interesting. I never have to turn it off pulling into my garage. Are you reaching a full stop going into the garage? For me it only activates when I reach a full stop.

[Curious41]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Are you sure you are not in situations where the Drive-Off Assistant is active/functioning? We've had the Drive-off Assistant from the E9x models of 3-series, no Auto-Hold until the G2x models.

Both the Drive-off Assistant and Auto-Hold use the service brakes.

Yea this was all with cars that had auto-hold. If I came to a stop, auto-hold would not turn on until I gave the brakes a bit of an extra push. In my M3, every time I come to a stop auto-hold activates.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

Interesting. I never have to turn it off pulling into my garage. Are you reaching a full stop going into the garage? For me it only activates when I reach a full stop.

Probably since I’m overly paranoid about getting in with this new car. Once I get use to the cars width it shouldn’t be a major issue, but still prefer the Mercedes implementation better.

Originally Posted by Curious41

Yea this was all with cars that had auto-hold. If I came to a stop, auto-hold would not turn on until I gave the brakes a bit of an extra push. In my M3, every time I come to a stop auto-hold activates.

Same here.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

Another former Mercedes driver here.

The Mercedes way of activation just makes much more sense. There isn’t an “on/off” setting for it as it isn’t needed. You activate it by pressing the brake peddle harder, as you mentioned, when stopping.

BMW doesn’t do it this way. For BMW you first have to activate “Hold” under the shifter and it will be on until you turn it off again and is remembered between drive sessions. You then come to a stop and it will automatically activate the function. Pressing harder won’t influence its activation. I also don’t believe you can deactivate it with a tap of the brake pedal like Mercedes either. You have to tap the gas. I used to tap the brake on the Benz to prevent that jerky start feeling as the car removes the brakes and starts going from the gas pedal that can startle your passengers.

At least BMW “fixed” the turn signal stalk on the G30 compared to older models. That would have taken me a longer time to adjust to I feel.

I think it is a matter of personal preference. Some folks prefer to never have an autohold on (I have a buddy with an X4; I urged him to try autohold and he hated it so he has left it turned off) and for them the BMW system works better; for those who like autohold (me included) I agree that the MB system appears to work better.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Curious41

Yea this was all with cars that had auto-hold. If I came to a stop, auto-hold would not turn on until I gave the brakes a bit of an extra push. In my M3, every time I come to a stop auto-hold activates.

I suggest that is all in the pressure tolerances and brake feel of different models.

[snareman]

My previous M4 was my first car to have this feature and overall I love it. I've never driven a MB to see how it is in comparison, but sounds like an interesting difference. Its interesting to see the little things that car manufacturers do similar but differently. I was looking at some Aston Martin's and their center screen is a dinky 8" compared to the 12" screen in my X3 and M8.

[M8CompSoCal]

Originally Posted by snareman

My previous M4 was my first car to have this feature and overall I love it. I've never driven a MB to see how it is in comparison, but sounds like an interesting difference. Its interesting to see the little things that car manufacturers do similar but differently. I was looking at some Aston Martin's and their center screen is a dinky 8" compared to the 12" screen in my X3 and M8.

Indeed. I’m not at a fanboy to any specific brand. I think each company does things well in their own respective ways. But as far as break old goes, Mercedes-Benz definitely takes to win.