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      06-22-2023, 03:07 PM   #1
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Check out my new PPF!

My special needs neighbor had started a new company, installing PPF. I had him do the leading edge of the hood in preparation of a HPDE this weekend.

I think there may a bubble or two that he missed.
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Very strange. You seem to be ‘supporting’ you neighbor then come on here to essentially make fun of the person?
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Very strange. You seem to be ‘supporting’ you neighbor then come on here to essentially make fun of the person?
Plot twist: there is no neighbor. Just a M owner looking for a cheap DIY and a backstory to hide that fact.

Fwiw, rubber marbles on tracks can pierce PPF and cut into the paint.
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Plot twist: there is no neighbor. Just a M owner looking for a cheap DIY and a backstory to hide that fact.

Fwiw, rubber marbles on tracks can pierce PPF and cut into the paint.


Finally, someone gets my humor.

Yes, it is I, me, I'm the one who's challenged. I just can't apply these films decent to save my life. Fortunately I did not cut the paint when trimming.

This was just an experiment, a cheaper alternative to "tracwrap" but the same material thickness. It was surprisingly difficult to cut, at (I think) 8 mils thick it's not saranwrap. I'm not terribly worried about marbles damaging the paint, it's more about cleanup afterwards, getting the marks off.

I also tried a bug barrier to see if that will make it easier to clean off the marks.

It kind of depends on how fast the run group is. If they are slow and I do a lot of tailgating, I get more marbles. If they are fast and leave me behind, then the car stays cleaner.
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Finally, someone gets my humor.

Yes, it is I, me, I'm the one who's challenged. I just can't apply these films decent to save my life. Fortunately I did not cut the paint when trimming.

This was just an experiment, a cheaper alternative to "tracwrap" but the same material thickness. It was surprisingly difficult to cut, at (I think) 8 mils thick it's not saranwrap. I'm not terribly worried about marbles damaging the paint, it's more about cleanup afterwards, getting the marks off.

I also tried a bug barrier to see if that will make it easier to clean off the marks.

It kind of depends on how fast the run group is. If they are slow and I do a lot of tailgating, I get more marbles. If they are fast and leave me behind, then the car stays cleaner.
Just FYI, when you remove PPF, it will leave the adhesive behind and requires a lot of elbow grease to remove. Iso alcohol and standard off the shelf adhesive removers will not work. You'll need a bottle of rapidtac and a lot of elbow grease!
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Just FYI, when you remove PPF, it will leave the adhesive behind and requires a lot of elbow grease to remove. Iso alcohol and standard off the shelf adhesive removers will not work. You'll need a bottle of rapidtac and a lot of elbow grease!
How do you take PPF off the glossy black shit without destroying the finish
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How do you take PPF off the glossy black shit without destroying the finish
No idea. I removed the PPF off my teslas front bumper, and it was a pain. I first heated up the bumper good and the adhesive still stuck on the paint. As mentioned, I had to get some special adhesive remover. Goo gone did nothing.
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No idea. I removed the PPF off my teslas front bumper, and it was a pain. I first heated up the bumper good and the adhesive still stuck on the paint. As mentioned, I had to get some special adhesive remover. Goo gone did nothing.
The reason I ask is the PPF on my one side skirt is peeling a bit at the top and I am taking it for warranty work in about two weeks. I am concerned that if they have to replace the piece theyll scratch the hell out of the plastic to get the adhesive off. Ironic isnt it.

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The reason I ask is the PPF on my one side skirt is peeling a bit at the top and I am taking it for warranty work in about two weeks. I am concerned that if they have to replace the piece theyll scratch the hell out of the plastic to get the adhesive off. Ironic isnt it.
It is! I ppfd my frozen paint and you can't even polish it, so adhesive remover with lots of rubbing won't work either. 😒
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How do you take PPF off the glossy black shit without destroying the finish
Well, this stuff is only on for the weekend, so that may help.

Two, I've done it before (different car) and had no issues.

And c, this is one of the reasons that I don't like PPF as a permanent thing like so many of the cool-aid drinkers around here. A former coworker of mine had PPF on his Z car, and after a few years it started to yellow and crack, so he tried to peel it off, but it kept breaking into little pieces. After it also removed some paint, he quit and hired someone to take it off. It took more time to remove it than it did to install it.

Plus, I've got enough bubbles in there that it should help release.

I also had a nice coat of wax on the paint beforehand, so that may help as well.
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Well, this stuff is only on for the weekend, so that may help.

Two, I've done it before (different car) and had no issues.

And c, this is one of the reasons that I don't like PPF as a permanent thing like so many of the cool-aid drinkers around here. A former coworker of mine had PPF on his Z car, and after a few years it started to yellow and crack, so he tried to peel it off, but it kept breaking into little pieces. After it also removed some paint, he quit and hired someone to take it off. It took more time to remove it than it did to install it.

Plus, I've got enough bubbles in there that it should help release.

I also had a nice coat of wax on the paint beforehand, so that may help as well.
A former co-worker had a bad PPF experience so all PPF is bad and those that prefer PPF are all cool aid drinkers.

Ya, not only do I not get your sense of humor, I don’t follow your ‘logic’.
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The reason I ask is the PPF on my one side skirt is peeling a bit at the top and I am taking it for warranty work in about two weeks. I am concerned that if they have to replace the piece theyll scratch the hell out of the plastic to get the adhesive off. Ironic isnt it.
They will do one of two things:
- trim off the peeling part (especially if on a curved surface)
- clean under the peeling part and use an adhesive promoter to lay it down again

It’d take a really bad situation for them to take off and reapply fully.
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I also tried a bug barrier to see if that will make it easier to clean off the marbles.
I’ve only taken my own car on a track once for “parade laps” while people who paid to track were eating lunch. Just those 4-5 laps behind an M2 left rubber streaks all over my PPF and in one spot, the marble cut through the PPF and left a streak that was very tough to get off normally.

Only two things helped:
1. nu-finish NF-76 liquid car polish - one application and a single swipe with a microfiber cloth and ALL of it was gone. Thorough washing beforehand did NOTHING.

2. For the spot where it cut though the PPF, I trimmed off with an exacto knife, and then did one drop of custom mix Individual paint. Not perfect but good enough for most folk.

Never taking it to the track again. I like having a pristine car.
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So, if you look at the first photo in the first post, you'll see a mess of stuff wiped on the hood above the PPF. That's this product shown below, which worked quite well. After the weekend, I easily removed the PPF (no damage to the paint, no residual glue) and washed the car, and the only marble mark I found was on the door, where I didn't spray anything.

The PPF looked worse after the first day, as it lifted in the hood scallops. I guess I should have stretched it there, but that's kind of tricky and requires actual skill and experience. Neither of which I have.

I strongly recommend the bug barrier, even if just for bugs. It will come off if you drive through a rainstorm, but that's by design, as it easily comes off with a wash, and takes the bug carcasses and marble residual with it.

I also strongly recommend taking your car to the track. I get all of the reasons why you don't want to, wear and tear, marble damage, risky high speed stuff, I get it. But do a driving school with your BMW CCA chapter, which will have some good in-car instruction to teach you and keep you out of trouble, buy track insurance if you want some financial backing (your regular insurance is void on a race track) and get an idea of what these cars are truly capable of. And you'll have a blast!
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