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      07-20-2023, 08:57 AM   #1
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XPEL Fusion Plus vs XPEL Fusion Plus Premium

I am looking into cermaic coating, tint, and PPF of the high impact areas on my G80.

I received a quote this morning with 2 options for the cermaic coating, fusion plus and fusion plus premium.

From what I can see on the XPEL site, the plus is a 4 year warranty and premium is an 8 year warranty, and the premium is 9H hardness.

I park in a garage at home and a garage at work. I put 1200 - 1500 miles per year on it and wash weekly.

Plus: $1600
Premium: $2200

Any thoughts or opinions on which route I should go? Will I really notice a difference in look and longevity?

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Honestly, that pricing is insane for ceramic coating only. However, it's MAP pricing set by XPEL, I believe. Still not worth it.

Any other coating (OptiCoat, GTechniq, CQuartz, etc.) will offer the same results and better pricing.
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That pricing sounds insane. What does the warranty cover anyway?
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Great question on what the warranty actually covers. I’ll look into that.

I appreciate the comments on the price and I will shop around for more quotes!
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I am looking into cermaic coating, tint, and PPF of the high impact areas on my G80.

I received a quote this morning with 2 options for the cermaic coating, fusion plus and fusion plus premium.

From what I can see on the XPEL site, the plus is a 4 year warranty and premium is an 8 year warranty, and the premium is 9H hardness.

I park in a garage at home and a garage at work. I put 1200 - 1500 miles per year on it and wash weekly.

Plus: $1600
Premium: $2200

Any thoughts or opinions on which route I should go? Will I really notice a difference in look and longevity?

Thank you in advance!
Make sure that the quotes includes color correction.

I think that a 4 or 8 year promise is not realistic nor is the claim on their website that their products protect your paint from light scratches as scratches are not covered in their warranty.

You should read the fine print in their warranty page for what is covered and what they will pay for a claim.

"The maximum replacement cost to be paid by the Company shall be the lesser of the cost of the coating application or $1000."

Also, and most importantly what they do not cover with their warranty.

https://www.xpel.com/warranty-information
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That pricing sounds insane. What does the warranty cover anyway?
The OP should find other shops in his area that use other well known ceramic brands like Ceramic Pro and obtain some quotes. He should always do his homework and check out the online reviews for these shops.

I visited 5 shops in my area and checked out the type of cars they were working on and read as many reviews as possible before selecting the shop that did my PPF and ceramic work.
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The shop will only use Xpel coating if they are authorized installer! The warranty will be voided if any other coating was used.
I am highly recommending that you look at other brand of PPF. I had XPEL Ultimate Plus installed 2 years ago and it is already turning yellow (the car is a garage queen, always park in the garage and only drive on the weekend).
I recently DIY my DD VW Id4 with Suntek Ultra and the different was night and day. SUNTEK is crazy glossy vs orange peel looks from XPEL.
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The shop will only use Xpel coating if they are authorized installer! The warranty will be voided if any other coating was used.
I am highly recommending that you look at other brand of PPF. I had XPEL Ultimate Plus installed 2 years ago and it is already turning yellow (the car is a garage queen, always park in the garage and only drive on the weekend).
I recently DIY my DD VW Id4 with Suntek Ultra and the different was night and day. SUNTEK is crazy glossy vs orange peel looks from XPEL.
Don’t forget that the $1600 and $2200 quotes that the OP received were for using 2 different types of ceramic products sold by Xpel. When a shop is putting PPF on a car they have to do color correction first and then they apply ceramic coating on top of the PPF. When that is done the cost of the ceramic coating is much less and a whole different ball game.
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Don’t forget that the $1600 and $2200 quotes that the OP received were for using 2 different types of ceramic products sold by Xpel. When a shop is putting PPF on a car they have to do color correction first and then they apply ceramic coating on top of the PPF. When that is done the cost of the ceramic coating is much less and a whole different ball game.
The OP mentioned PPF in high impact areas so I am assuming he is getting XPEL PPF as well.
Anyhow, you are correct. Prepping includes Paint Correction is a must for proper PPF installation and Ceramic Coatings. Paint Corrections are probably account for majority of the labors.
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I think we need to see the full quote to understand the whole picture. How much is the total including PPF, paint correction, etc?
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Great information and appreciate all of it!

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I think we need to see the full quote to understand the whole picture. How much is the total including PPF, paint correction, etc?
I totally agree about seeing the entire quote. The op said he was interested in "cermaic coating, tint, and PPF of the high impact areas".

It appears that he is only interested in doing PPF on the front and ceramic allover including color correction, we need to see a breakdown on the itemized costs for the PPF, ceramic coating and color correction.

Also he is asking them for window tint, how much are they charging for this and what window tint product are they using?

Edited to add I was typing my reply when tatarwj posted the quotes.

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You need to shop around my friend. No one should be paying those prices for ceramic coating in 2023. There are also other ceramic coatings that work just as good if not better than XPEL. GTechniq, Ceramic Pro, CarPro, Modesta, and the list goes on. I also would pass on the XPEL window tint. I have it on my Tesla and I'm not impressed.
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You need to shop around my friend. No one should be paying those prices for ceramic coating in 2023. There are also other ceramic coatings that work just as good if not better than XPEL. GTechniq, Ceramic Pro, CarPro, Modesta, and the list goes on. I also would pass on the XPEL window tint. I have it on my Tesla and I'm not impressed.
Thank you for the additional manufactures and the heads up about the tint!

I had Llumar ceramic on my 335 and then my 240 and never had an issue or concern with it.
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Question to the OP, which interior trim do you have on your G80?

If it is the Individual Piano Black Finish make sure you installer covers it with PPF or you will see scratches no matter how careful you are.
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Thank you for the additional manufactures and the heads up about the tint!

I had Llumar ceramic on my 335 and then my 240 and never had an issue or concern with it.
By the way if you select that GT package for the PPF make sure they cover the headlights, A pillars and the inside door sills as part of the deal.
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You need to shop around my friend. No one should be paying those prices for ceramic coating in 2023. There are also other ceramic coatings that work just as good if not better than XPEL. GTechniq, Ceramic Pro, CarPro, Modesta, and the list goes on. I also would pass on the XPEL window tint. I have it on my Tesla and I'm not impressed.
Don't forget they have to do color correction on the whole car prior to the PPF on the front and ceramic coating on the entire vehicle. That being said the ceramic quote looks too high and I totally agree with you that the OP needs to shop around and do his homework.
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Don't forget they have to do color correction on the whole car prior to the PPF on the front and ceramic coating on the entire vehicle. That being said the ceramic quote looks too high and I totally agree with you that the OP needs to shop around and do his homework.
Do you mean paint correction? I didn't forget. Paint correction underneath PPF doesn't make sense and it's a waste of money. I understand some people disagree with this approach; however, most shops don't paint correct underneath PPF. The presumption is PPF will always be on the car, so why does the paint need to be corrected underneath? In nearly all cases, imperfections in the paint will vanish once the PPF is installed.
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And one more thing. Ignore those warranties. They're not worth the paper they're printed on. There's little to no chance a detailer will reapply ceramic or refund your money if the coating "fails" at any point after installation. There are too many carefully worded clauses and disclaimers which will preclude the owner from a successful claim. If you haven't read it, read it and I think this post will come into focus.
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By the way if you select that GT package for the PPF make sure they cover the headlights, A pillars and the inside door sills as part of the deal.
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I am looking into cermaic coating, tint, and PPF of the high impact areas on my G80.

I received a quote this morning with 2 options for the cermaic coating, fusion plus and fusion plus premium.

From what I can see on the XPEL site, the plus is a 4 year warranty and premium is an 8 year warranty, and the premium is 9H hardness.

I park in a garage at home and a garage at work. I put 1200 - 1500 miles per year on it and wash weekly.

Plus: $1600
Premium: $2200

Any thoughts or opinions on which route I should go? Will I really notice a difference in look and longevity?

Thank you in advance!
That quote seems a little high on the high end.

I got 2 stage paint correction + graphene coating at a reputable shop for 2k cad.

Ignore the warranty, it is worthless. It came with the ceramic coating I had done on my e92 and didn't cost extra. I highly doubt you'll ever need it and my doubts that the shop applying it will be doing free labor are even higher.
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Don't forget they have to do color correction on the whole car prior to the PPF on the front and ceramic coating on the entire vehicle. That being said the ceramic quote looks too high and I totally agree with you that the OP needs to shop around and do his homework.
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Do you mean paint correction? I didn't forget. Paint correction underneath PPF doesn't make sense and it's a waste of money. I understand some people disagree with this approach; however, most shops don't paint correct underneath PPF. The presumption is PPF will always be on the car, so why does the paint need to be corrected underneath? In nearly all cases, imperfections in the paint will vanish once the PPF is installed.
I had cataract surgery recently so every color looks cleaner and brighter, I guess I had color on my mind.

You are correct, I meant paint correction.
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