[HoldenTudiks]

Hey guys, I am looking at the frozen black colorway for 6000 CAD. I heard that getting a BMW individual colorway is a bad choice because
1: It is expensive to fix scratches
2: You have to wait a long time for the paint when fixing
3: You still need to PPF the car because it doesn't protect from scratches

The alternative is getting a matte black wrap, which can protect the original paint and is cheaper to maintain. The downside is the wrap is not OEM. What are your thoughts? Would you recommend frozen paint then PPF or just wrap it?

[wasya152]

I would recommend a standard paint and then Spending money on a matte ppf. What's the point of spending extra money on a matte color when you have to spend the same amount again on a ppf afterwards. If there is a standard factory color you like, do that and just put matte ppf over it. Will give you same results but half the cost. We have a matte white car and did the matte ppf over it. If the standard color selection on the car was better would have done that. Unfortunately, we only had an option of choosing between 4 colors so that was not possible.

A wrap, unless it's a ppf won't have the thickness and necessary paint protection that ppf provides.

[ctelimad]

I am getting frozen deep grey (3600) but i am planing to lease my car so paying less then that (lease will eat some of the cost)
I am ppfing the front bumper and front hood most impact from rocks (around 1500$) i am fine with few rock chips on other parts
Any good wrap will cost me around 6k
Any good ppf will cost around 7k
If you hit ur matted ppffed car u have to pay to repaint and ppff the area hit otherwise will be different color
Although matte ppf looks great but not 100% like matte paint

[SHARMAATL]

If leasing, just get the frozen paint. If buying, standard paint and then do stealth PPF.

[iifymbro]

matte PPF is not in the same league as frozen paint, doesn't have the same depth/character to it. PPF the front clip and dr. beasely's matte ceramic coat everything and you'll be fine.

I'm 5k miles in on my frozen portimao with no PPF and I've found 2 small chips on the front end and that's it....so there's that. Frozen paints are pretty tough.

[wasya152]

That's not true. Yes, factory is a little better, but you would not be able to tell when the car is wrapped that it's much worse. We checked when the car was halfway done and it was very difficult say where the transition between the two. Had to look very hard
The way matte changes color depending on the light, it really is hard to tell if it's that or light. Paint matching those chips will cost you as much as a ppf to take care of due to the difficulties of working with the matte paint. You will have to paint half the car to blend it in properly. The peace of mind the ppf gives you from, dings, scratches, scuffs and rock chips, is very nice mentally. Again, not just rock chips. A friend of ours had his car swiped and it just rubbed right off. No body work needed at all. That's when we understood the true value off ppf. Not headache dealing with a shop and getting the repair work done having your car smell like paint for months...

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by wasya152

That's not true. Yes, factory is a little better, but you would not be able to tell when the car is wrapped that it's much worse. We checked when the car was halfway done and it was very difficult say where the transition between the two. Had to look very hard

He was talking about buying a gloss black car then PPF'ing it with matte instead of buying frozen then dealing with protecting it. Good PPF is hard to spot on frozen for sure, some say it still kills the aesthetics vs bare frozen paint but that's much harder to quantify then the gloss turned matte with PPF approach.

[Crazy1323]

Originally Posted by SHARMAATL

If leasing, just get the frozen paint. If buying, standard paint and then do stealth PPF.

This! It very much depends if leasing or buying.

I would imagine if leasing you will need to remove the matte PPF before turning the car in and you would get zero of it back. But if you lease the car, then the cost of the frozen paint would be in your residual and you would effectively pay for only 40-50% of it.

If you go with the factory frozen paint there are lots of good threads in the detailing forum about how to care for it.

[subterFUSE]

I personally think unprotected frozen paint looks better than matte PPF. But the protection of PPF would have me choosing that option. I just don't want the risk of rock chips with unprotected paint.